File talk:(Untitled) The Blue Lady Sculpture.jpg

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There is FOP in Canada so all someone needs to do is go into The Royal Ontario Museum and take a picture and upload it here with the correct licence. LGA _talk^edits 08:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I actually did take this photo! This is my first time uploading a photo to Wikipedia, and I think I just clicked on the wrong description. I meant that I took the photo and hereby allow free licensing of the photo, however, the subject of the photo (the sculpture) is copyrighted. Please help me fix the description.

Thank you! JYResearch (talk) 11:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem, since there is Freedom of panorama in Canada you are allowed to take pictures of "a sculpture or work of artistic craftsmanship or a cast or model of a sculpture or work of artistic craftsmanship, that is permanently situated in a public place or building" without needing the consent of the person who created it. Probably the best bet is to send an e-mail to permissions-en@wikimedia.org confirming when you took the picture, where you took it, the filename ("(Untitled) The Blue Lady Sculpture.jpg") and that you wish to licence the image cc-by-sa and drop a note either on my talk page or here when you have done that. The image will be correctly tagged then and it won't be deleted. LGA _talk^edits 11:30, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for that info! Is there any way to do this other than email? I would prefer to do this on Wiki. Thank you for your help - I am still figuring everything out. Cheers JYResearch (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi JYResearch. I am Diannaa and I am an administrator on this wiki. I think we can take your word for it that you personally took and uploaded the photo. However, instead of the "fair use" setup we currently have on the file, you need to tell us the license under which you are releasing the photo for use. Please select a license from the lists accessible at Wikipedia:File copyright tags. -- Dianna (talk) 21:55, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Would freedom of panorama cover something inside a museum??? I think the issue here would be "permanently". If it's something like an ornate fountain in the lobby that is a permanent fixture and even if they completely revamp their exhibits, that fountain isn't moving, that's "permanently". But a museum exhibit is not "permanent" - it's just situated there but could be moved at any time. I think the description page is exactly correct as it is - the photographer has released all rights to the image, but the underlying work is copyrighted. --B (talk) 12:31, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Commons:COM:FOP#United Kingdom covers items inside a building if the building is open to the general public. For example, a museum is usually open to the general public (although you may have to pay a fee to enter the building). British Commonwealth countries generally use old versions of the British copyright law with local modifications, which means that British Commonwealth countries usually also have freedom of panorama inside countries. Commons:COM:FOP#Canada says that there is freedom of panorama for works installed in a public place, and the wording "public place" is typically what makes us assume indoors freedom of panorama in Commonwealth countries. See for example Commons:Category:Madame Tussauds where you can find photos taken inside Madame Tussauds in some subcategories but not in other subcategories. Freedom of panorama still requires that the work is permanently installed, and I have no idea if this one is permanently installed or not.

The main problem here is that the uploader tells that the photo has been licensed under a free licence without telling which free licence it is. Usually, you do at least have to include the name of the licence if you wish to use a freely licensed image, and often you need to do more (such as including a copy of the licence or a web address to a place where you can find it). --Stefan2 (talk) 12:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I see your point about the wording - I misread it as a public domain grant. I have asked the user on their talk page to add clear wording to the image description page. I still don't agree that FOP would apply - it's clear from looking at the picture that this isn't a permanent fixture - it's just an exhibit display that can be moved at any time. Something like File:Pulitzer Fountain in NYC.JPG is a permanent fixture. If you can pick it up and move it without cutting bolts, sawing, destroying concrete, etc, then it's not permanent. --B (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I've decided not to release this photo for use and would like it to be deleted. I see it has a free use tag, I did not add that. Please help to delete. Thanks JYResearch (talk) 02:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)