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The torgaj (turcii) modjars was allied with casars. But tis pictures omited it. The Ozd was (in Panonnia) the center of Arpad who came from Uzui.(see the old historical codexes)

The picture is full of elementary mistakes. To name the major ones for cenral Europe: Bohemia and Lusatia were not part of Great Moravia after 895 anymore (and nobody in the world has ever claimed the opposite), the eastern part of Great Moravia did still exist around 900 etc. etc., the picture is well done in terms of design etc., but factually, it is terrible. The big problem of the wikipedia, advatage of which seems to be frequently taken also by the author of this picture who has created many such defective maps for the history of Hungary, is that unlike text such maps cannot be fixed by other users and the readers do not realise that. Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.208.80.253 (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Magyar homeland is Central Asia[edit]

Why doesn't this map show what happened before AD 893, and where the Magyars came to be in the North of the Black Sea?

As you must know the Hungarians are not Indo-European but Uralic and came from the steppes of Central Asia and settled into the Pannonian Plain (probably because they were used to the steppes and this plain was similar).

Because they couldn't advance westwards they started campaigns into various adjacent regions including Transylvania. According to Hungarian chronicles, Transylvania was organized into 3 voivodeships (Gelu, Glad and Memumorut) and was inhabited by Blaki / Vlachs. The Magyars conquered these 3 voivodeships and brought Magyar colonists into Transylvania. Scooter20 (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

False map![edit]

This map "re-writes" established history by showing Hungarians 1st arriving in Transylvania when they enter the Carpatho-Danubian territory !"The Hungarians, who had settled in Pannonia at the end of the 9th century and who entered Dacia in the 10th century, overwhelmed the Slavic-Romanian duchies, or voivodates, that they encountered there. In the 11th century they made the territory north of the Carpathians, which was to become known as Transylvania, a part of the Hungarian kingdom"(this is quoted from encyclopedia britannica on Romanian-Hungarian history but this map is also contradictory to other articles of wikipedia),also Transylvania was progressively incorporated into the Hungarian kingdom(established in the year 1000AD) between the XI and XIII century, and it lasted until Mohacs..by this map the hungarians had all Pannonia,Slovakia and Transylvania within a few months!