Talk:AMD APU

Which structure?

I deliberately structured this page by architecture-type and List of AMD Accelerated Processing Unit microprocessors by machine-type so we could discuss how the information should be structured. Does anyone have an opinion on which works better? DElliott (talk) 12:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

looks good for this, i'm trying to find a decent sized image of the new logo, but all i've gotten is a crop from the newegg ad... -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 17:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

In that case, what are your thoughts on converting List of AMD Accelerated Processing Unit microprocessors to show the information by architecture type?DElliott (talk) 15:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

sounds like a good idea. especially since that would pretty much make it organized by time as well... -- Aunva6^{talk - contribs} 16:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

DrSeehas, do you have any thoughts on this change? DElliott (talk) 08:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

You can organize the information by "application" (desktop, mobile, ...) like it is now or by architecture type (your proposal). Maybe two lists? I personally prefer the latter, but I suppose I am not the typical Wikipedia user...
Could you please have a look at List of AMD CPU microarchitectures. Is Llano Family 12h or Bulldozer (Family 15h)? --DrSeehas (talk) 08:49, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, can you rephrase that question? DElliott (talk) 13:23, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I try: Is "Llano" AMD Family 12h or AMD Family 15h?
And another question: Is there an AMD Family 13h? --DrSeehas (talk) 13:45, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

<http://support.amd.com/us/System-Building-and-Compatibility/Pages/APUSystemBuildingCompatibility.aspx> suggests Llano is 12h. I've never heard of 13h. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DElliott (talk • contribs) 14:15, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. So I did it nearly right. What irritates me: "Llano" is supposed to be Bulldozer also, but Bulldozer is in this article Family 15h? I think, Llano should be exchanged with Bulldozer (AMD Family 12h) and Bulldozer should be Piledriver (Family 15h). --DrSeehas (talk) 15:02, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I believe that Llano is 12h (derivative of 10h), Bulldozer is 15h (Piledriver Steamroller Excavator), Bobcat is 14h, Jaguar is 16h (Puma) probably would be better shown with a family tree http://leonstudio.org/p/165 ClearBlueSky85 (talk) 08:33, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

AMD Fusion feature overview

The AMD APU feature chart needs to be updated. It states that Richland APUs are based on GCN 1.1 when they are in fact based on VLIW4. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.24.87.118 (talk) 11:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

ARM server architecture (2016): Seattle

It seems that the ARM/Seattle section should be move to a AMD CPU page. There is speculation, without citation, that AMD may release an ARM based APU. And the only citations included are very old. The section itself is, in fact, out of date as Seattle has been released since January as the A1100 series. Dbsseven (talk) 22:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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[AMD/ATI] Gladius

I can't find any information about the GPU [AMD/ATI] Gladius [1002:9924]. Does it exist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.194.172 (talk) 01:49, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

APU definition

AMD marketing has not been using the term for some years now, but there's a precise definition: it is an HSA-style processor that contains a CPU and a GPU part. GPU processing power has nothing to do with it. The Ryzen 7000 are APUs, not CPUs. And even AMD still knows this: https://www.amd.com/en/support/apu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-9-desktop-processors/amd-ryzen-9-7950x Trigenibinion (talk) 12:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Reliable, independent secondary sources like AnandTech, Tom's Hardware, Tweaktown, etc don't call Ryzen 7000 series Raphael an "APU": 1 2 3.

Instead they use the term 'APU' to refer to processors with high performance integrated graphics, such as the "Phoenix" Ryzen 7000 series: 1 2. AP 499D25 (talk) 02:02, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

It is irrelevant what the press calls them. They are technically APUs. Trigenibinion (talk)— Preceding undated comment added 04:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 26 December 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to AMD APU and List of AMD processors with 3D graphics. – wbm1058 (talk) 02:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

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• AMD Accelerated Processing Unit → AMD APU
• List of AMD accelerated processing units → List of AMD APUs

– per WP:COMMONNAME, AMD APU is much more commonly known by its abbreviation 'APU', rather than by its full name 'Accelerated Processing Unit'. AP 499D25 (talk) 06:38, 26 December 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. echidnaLives - talk - edits 08:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Colonestarrice (talk) 07:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Not sure how to properly add on to the reasoning above, but first off, a quick example. Someone bought a brand new AMD APU. 99.9% likely they're going to say, "hey! look at my shiny new Ryzen APU!" instead of "look at my new Ryzen Accelerated Processing Unit!".

Secondly, look at this secondary source article about upcoming APUs in 2023. The abbreviation 'APU' is mentioned fourteen times throughout the article, while 'Accelerated Processing Unit' is mentioned zero times.

Here's another example. 'APU' count: 19. 'Accelerated Processing Unit' count: 0. AP 499D25 (talk) 09:08, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Nobody ever says "central processing unit" or "random-access memory" either. (I'm undecided how compelling I find this as a counterargument, but it seems worth pointing out.) ℰmi1y_⧼T·C⧽ 09:11, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm undecided either way, but wanted to point out that the same could be said for the List of AMD graphics processing units and List of Nvidia graphics processing units pages. Not many use the full name, and instead simply say "GPU" instead.

Furthermore, AMD themselves in their press releases no longer refer to any product as an "APU", but simply "processor with AMD Radeon Graphics".

So it could be said that there's more of a case for renaming the article as: "List of AMD Processors with Radeon Graphics". wislam (talk) 12:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I know it's pretty late but I'm surprised this request hasn't been closed with no consensus yet. I wanted to add here that another reason behind me making this requested move is the "acronymisation" of various tech-related articles in general. I noticed the NVMe article used to be named "NVM Express", from the beginning right so, until recently it was boldly moved to NVMe citing WP:COMMONNAME as the reasoning behind that move. Lately I noticed any categories with 'Advanced Micro Devices' in the name have been renamed to AMD after a CfD in support of it. I figured let's take the opportunity to acronymise the APU name as well, given that 'Accelerated Processing Unit' is pretty much unheard of around nowadays. Oh well. AP 499D25 (talk) 12:41, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: To form a clearer consensus echidnaLives - talk - edits 08:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I suggest List of AMD Processors with 3D Graphics to avoid APU controversies. Trigenibinion (talk) 15:08, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

AMD does not use the term APU anymore in their marketing materials likely because it is imprecise under its original definition. Trigenibinion (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

AMD may not use the term anymore but other companies using AMD APUs may still call them that, e.g. Valve Corporation (Nov. 12, 2021): "The AMD chip inside the Steam Deck has a name: it's the Aerith SOC, a clear reference to the famous Aerith from Final Fantasy VII. It's an APU..." and "We didn't place any artificial limits on how much power the APU can consume."

It's easy to see why, and imagine that "APU" will continue to stick around. It's more cumbersome to say "We didn't place any artificial limits on how much power the AMD processor with 3D graphics can consume."

Also noting the two secondary source examples shown above. Have secondary sources started saying "processor with 3D graphics" rather than "APU" yet? wbm1058 (talk) 22:22, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

• Noting for the record that there was a generic article about accelerated processing unit (aka Advanced Processing Unit) that was redirected to the AMD APU page on 4 June 2015 as per the over year long talk discussion. – wbm1058 (talk) 05:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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