Talk:2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses

Edit Request: Washington, D.C. section -- University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) missing from DC section + MPD response to GWU President + other changes [Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 May 2024]

Change the following sentence:

"On April 25, students from Georgetown University and George Washington University established a joint encampment ... ."

"Protesters were joined by Howard University, George Mason University, University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and Gallaudet University students."

To: "On April 25, students from Georgetown University and George Washington University established a joint encampment in Foggy Bottom ... ."

"Protesters at Foggy Bottom were later on joined by Howard University, George Mason University, American University, University of Maryland, College Park, Gallaudet University, and University of Maryland, Baltimore County students."

Here are additional sources for this change:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eight-colleges-join-together-to-protest-the-war-in-gaza-at-george-washington-university_n_662aa8fde4b0bd041d771f10 .

https://www.ajc.com/news/dc-police-refuse-universitys-pleas-to-remove-protesters/G3KTS5QXLZB5ROFGGENK7JCTGA/

https://gwhatchet.com/2024/04/25/live-coverage-pro-palestinian-demonstrators-erect-tent-encampment-in-u-yard/

-- Also, let's add more information about why the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia (MPD) rejected George Washington University President's request to remove the protesters. Some of the sources that have already been cited, plus others we can cite, say that MPD/D.C. officials rejected the request because the protesters [(at least at the time)] were protesting peacefully and police did not want to antagonize them nor recreate the same optics surrounding the Teargassing and Clearing of Peaceful Protesters at Lafayette Square during the Donald Trump photo op at St. John's Church. --

[Note to Talk Page Readers: American University (AU) and the University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) are mentioned twice in the whole article because they had protests on their campus but later on joined the joint DMV SJP encampment at GW's campus in Foggy Bottom. In UMD's case, its on-campus protest is mentioned in the Maryland section while its joint protest at the Foggy Bottom, Washington, D.C. encampment should be mentioned in the Washington, D.C. section. Also keep in mind that University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) and University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC) are two separate universities with similar names that joined the Foggy Bottom protest (this may have confused an editor which may be the reason why it was omitted).]

InfoWiki01 (talk) 00:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 09:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Providing historical context

There appears to be little historical context in this article, to include (1) a brief history of Israel and its forced migration of Palestinians and (2) the history of US higher education, its long-standing role in supporting establishment causes (genocide, slavery, wars, global climate change), and the history of student movements to counter oppression (the Vietnam War, South African apartheid and divestment). Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 20:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you have reliable sources directly relating this to the current protests? The background isn't supposed to be a history of the Israel-Palestine conflict nor the history of higher education. There are otherwise references to Protests of 1968 that were available from RS. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 22:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Keene State College to be added to the Wikimap of protesting colleges

Students at Keene State College in Keene New Hampshire organized a protest and it must be added to the Wikimap of protesting colleges with a blue marker. Quertie420 (talk) 14:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Encampment beginning at La Trobe University, Australia next Tuesday, 7 May

Hi, there's not currently a WP:RS for it, but La Trobe University will be holding an encampment from 7 May to 9 May (I've been told there's a potential to extend it, but its not a large uni such as University of Melbourne or University of Sydney so there might not be as many people to sustain it for weeks as they are doing. Here is an instagram post announcing it, there should be WP:RS in the future. MarkiPoli (talk) 17:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

References

Google

Please let me know which article of Wikipedia this https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/technology/google-firing-israeli-cloud-contract.html news should be added to.-4Zion2Do (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

That ref is already used in Project Nimbus#Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Boud (talk) 15:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

"Occupying campuses"

First sentence of the second paragraph of the lead section contains the phrase "began occupying campuses" when it more accurately should read "began occupying spaces on campuses". Current phrasing implies students physically occupied entire campuses in protest. Gorvus the thumb (talk) 03:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Protests at SUNY New Paltz

At Suny New Paltz, a peaceful protest was forcibly broken up by riot police after they refused to disperse:

https://www.timesunion.com/hudsonvalley/news/article/suny-new-paltz-palestine-encampment-arrests-19436848.php

At least one person injured: https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/cbs-6-speaks-with-new-paltz-student-hurt-in-college-protests-gaza-pro-palestine-israel-hamas-war-encampment-injury-camp-protesting-suny-campus- Wikiwikiwawa (talk) 13:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Being mindful of the history of student protest

It's good to see so much effort included in this article. I hope that in documenting and editing this phenomenon that we do not lose sight of history, much of which has been lost through questionable (uncritical) scholarship and selective editing. I am particularly amazed at how poorly student protest and other forms of student resistance have been documented in Wikipedia, but perhaps I shouldn't have. Student protests in the 1920s and 1930s, for example, have barely been examined, despite their historic role in US civil rights. What happened in between those years and the 1960s is made invisible. Even student and faculty resistance from the 1960s to the present is poorly documented. How this article is edited, and possibly included in higher-level articles on Higher education in the United States and History of higher education in the United States will be interesting, especially if the events are part of a broader popular movement. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you have reliable sources to reference? Have you seen the Analysis section? CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 21:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, and I appreciate the work that's been done. Let's see what this article looks like in 3 months and 3 years. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 23:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

If you have sufficient high-quality sources to create an article on US student protests of the 1920s and 1930s and their notable role in US civil rights, then please go ahead. Student protests in October 1964 in Sudan and police repression evolved into a general strike and the October 1964 Revolution, the first of three protest-triggered revolutions (2nd = 1985 Sudanese coup d'état; 3rd = 2018/2019 Sudanese revolution), but the first is only barely covered in a few paragraphs of Wikipedia. There are plenty of Wikipedia articles on significant content that nobody has had the time for or found the sources for - yet. Boud (talk) 12:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)