Talk:Haiku (operating system)

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A Question[edit]

Is Haiku A Shell Mod? (A Explorer.EXE Edit) Or A Full OS?

Another Question[edit]

"Haiku desktop, with Firefox". Nothing is said, is Firefox built upon custom graphic toolkit, is there GTK emulation mode in toolkit, is there native GTK used, is there a whole desktop using GTK? /sd/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.200.2.54 (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--Lyoko2198 (talk) 15:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haiku is a fully fledged OS designed to be compatible with the BeOS, it is not a shell replacement and there is no way your Windows apps will work on Haiku. Also, the Firefox port uses native graphics, as there is no port of the GTK+ toolkit. The whole desktop uses a custom API and has no association with any cross-platform toolkit. A port of QT exists, but is 3rd party. 86.155.195.104 (talk) 12:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Donating[edit]

I can't really figure out how to add a whole new category on here, so hopefully someone will read this and add/integrate it into the Wiki.

I'd like to add this information, under the header Donating:

Since the work done by Haiku developers is done in their free time, and on their own hardware, several options exist to compensate Haiku developers (at least partially) for their work, or to help Haiku Inc. with administrative, marketing and miscellaneous expenses. Currently, there are three ways to contribute to Haiku.

1) Donating to 'Haiku code bounties': Haiku bounties aims to gather funds to target the completion of a specific part of the OS to be completed.

2) Donating directly to Haiku: will leave it up to the administration at Haiku to best decide how to make use of your donations. This is useful if you can't decide which bounty to donate to, or simply don't like the bounty choices.

3) The Dedicated Hardware Fund: seeks to accept donations that will be used to buy a particular piece of hardware that a developer at Haiku requests.

thnx, Karl

Wikipedia isn't an advertising service. I know it's for a good cause, but it's not really appropriate. I will add a link to your site though, as it is related, but I don't think any more than a link is really suitable. Also, could you stop hotlinking the images? It's not cool, just use mirror it with Imageshack or something. I like what you're doing though, it's a great initiative. :) --Hn 01:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

None of the above are commercial enterprises here, and are in no way using Wikipedia to advertise or exploit it in anyway. They are for Haiku's benefit, not my own personal gain or anyone else's personal or business venture.

I think there is a misunderstanding of how important the above are to Haiku and how appropriate they infact are. A short paragraph that briefly explains what and how one can help Haiku with the above initiatives wouldn't hurt, and would certainly do more justice than a link.

I have to agree with Hn here, I know what HaikuBounties is trying to do, but we need to keep the Wikipedia entry solely as an information point. If you'd like a bigger feature on the Haiku Wiki, we can look at that ;) As for now, the link that Hn added is within reason. --[Beta] 21:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

In far too many places reads almost like a Haiku advert. NicM 00:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

GCC Age as of 2007[edit]

I have updated the section that speaks to gcc being 5 years old as of 2005. I have updated that to 2007, which is in fact 6 years old because of the march release of gcc 2.95.3. The best source I have is http://gcc.gnu.org/releases.html . Upon Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_templates I have come up with this:

the GCC team, GCC Relases - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF), retrieved 2007-08-16

Which is by no means complete, but I can't figure out exactly how to put this properly into the article.

jptdrake 19:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Solved: Used Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). and a cite web template.

jptdrake 04:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm just a lousy programmer, but how do they avoid virtual table problems when using C++ in such an old gcc? Do they mutex all object creation in the kernel, or do they simply not create objects? What about structs? Do they run in C namespaces when creating structs? Said: Rursus (☻) 08:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Milestones[edit]

Just FYI: I compiled a rather complete list of the most important milestones in the German article. All the cited references are in English. --KAMiKAZOW 18:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OpenJDK Progress[edit]

Java on Haiku now that would be cool! http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2008-01-21/openjdk_porters_group_votes_to_sponsor_java_port_to_haiku

http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2008-01-03/new_java_for_haiku_team_formed worth to be mentioned under progress?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.162.248.137 (talk) 21:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • IMO, as long as there’s no OpenJDK source code actually ported to Haiku, it’s just vaporware and not worth mentioning. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 00:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually there is progress already made, as the people who were porting Java to BeOS when Java was under more restrictive licensing had demos of Java (and Swing, its GUI toolkit) already running. The same people that did this port are heading up the OpenJDK effort, and seeing as they have substantial knowledge of how to go about doing this, I think it merits some mention. It's not vaporware. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.160.174 (talk) 05:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kernel type[edit]

The info box on the right states that Haiku has a microkernel. However in the text it says "Haiku’s kernel is a fork of NewOS, a modular kernel written by [...]". Also in the article Hybrid kernel BeOS and Haiku are mentioned as examples. Could somebody clear this up and possibly add a citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.93.247 (talk) 08:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VirtualBox[edit]

VirtualBox support for raw disk images, or at least a converter. VBoxManage command line tool with the convertdd option can converter raw disk images into VirtualBox format. 

VBoxManage convertdd <filename> <outputfile>

for example: 

VBoxManage convertdd haiku.image.r27770 haiku.r27770.vdi  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.98.51.38 (talk) 10:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you're a godsend! -NoKindOfName (talk) 16:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With VirtualBox3 you don't need to convert the vmdk image, just use it. To get network support, choose Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop Adapter (82540EM) with NAT. 08Jan2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.189.225.201 (talk) 01:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile Devices[edit]

It seems that Haiku developers simply miss that much of the current OS work is around mobile devices. [Android, ChromeOS, etc.] If Haiku is that much fast/good/lightweight as promissed it should be considered to be ported/used on mobile platforms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.6.42 (talk) 19:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

how one can write such a stupid thing? Thus all those people which work on non-mobile, do nothing? All people use just smartphones and nothing more. Your chrome os is just nothing. Empty advertising. Nobody uses it. The stupid idea the os in the browser has proved its failure completely. This article is about DESKTOP OS development effort. This may be interesting for people involved in this area in any way. For what reason to insert here trend sh1t about mobile, about what you are brainwashed so strong. "much of os work" really? All work is for those dumb shiny toys and nothing else. And i suspect all this "big os work" is done by only 2 supermegacompanies, right? rrr

77.52.154.197 (talk) 22:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

what is the point?[edit]

This article should explain what the point of this project is. Why is anyone interested in doing this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.106.4 (talk) 00:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And some comparisons with prominent OSs would be appropriate. Regards, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 16:58, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with age template[edit]

The article says: "which is now {{age|2001|03|16}} years old". It displays as "11 years old", but surely it should say 12 or 13. 2013 minus 2001 is 12. Is the age template broken? 86.174.188.81 (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reviews[edit]

The reviews in the "Reception" section are all ancient. Might be better to update these to newer reviews, especially since Beta R1 just came out. 2600:8805:8100:117:9C71:C350:41B8:7D4F (talk) 06:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed with both updates and new split of Reception section. --Zblace (talk) 08:40, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted. See article history for reasonings. Please add recent references from notable sources. -- Doktor Züm (talk) 11:57, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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