Talk:Israeli Americans

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Significant population centers[edit]

Instead of presenting the US communities with the highest percentages of Israelis (Kensington, NY is on top of the list with only 75 people) this section should rather present the largest Jewish populations (which each contains many hundrends or thousands of people). TheCuriousGnome (talk) 22:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table has been added. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 05:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rahm Emanuel[edit]

Can Rahm Emanuel really be classified as an Israeli-American? He was not born in Israel, and only his father is Israeli.--RM (Be my friend) 23:27, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the same way we can ask if the entertainer Madonna should also be included in the Italian Americans article or not? After all, only her father was Italian. In my opinion, in both cases we ideally need to choose the most famous American citizens whom have at least one Israeli (or in the case of the Italian Americans' page - Italian) parent or whom are Israelis (or Italian, in the case of the Italian Americans' page) who have in their lifetime emigrated to the United States. As I have understood it, in all of the similar pages in this series of articles in the English Wikipedia we have operated in this way. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 03:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very ironic: Citation needed[edit]

User:RolandR keeps reverting me and insists (see this) that the term "Israeli Americans" in Hebrew have a source. The proper translation of it is indeed "ישראלים אמריקאיים‎". Now, never mind the fact that millions of other similar articles don't require such citation. But the user, RonaldR, claims on his page (see "he-4") that he knows Hebrew at a nearly fluent level, and that he "is a translator from Hebrew to English"! But when he reverted me, as you can see here, he said "I dispute this assertion, and require evidence". On one hand he says he knows Hebrew but on the other he disputes these two Hebrew words and asks for evidence. Mysterious, isn't it? What are the motives behind this? I ask for an explanation, preferably from him. Shalom11111 (talk) 21:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't dispute that this is a possible Hebrew translation of the term. I dispute that it is ever used, in any context at all, anywhere other than on this page. I note that it is not even the term used on the equivalent Hebrew Wikipedia page, אמריקאים ישראלים. In the absence of evidence that this is a term in use anywhere, the addition of this unnecessary translation is simply original research, and thus should not be included. RolandR (talk) 23:38, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

YES to "Americans of Israeli descent" ... NO to "or who hold Israeli citizenship."[edit]

This -- "Americans of Israeli descent or who hold Israeli citizenship" --is wrong, and contradictory to the WP:COMMONNAME policy. Common usage is that "Italian Americans" are Americans of Italian descent, "Irish Americans" are Americans of Irish descent, and so on. So, "Israeli American" should be the term only for "Americans of Israeli descent," and not for dual citizens or whatever this -- "who hold Israeli citizenship" -- means. Americans who have emigrated to Israel or who otherwise are of American descent should be called "American Israelis." I may just end up being bold on this, but thought it important to notify folks of my reasoning.Haberstr (talk) 08:57, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting translation and transliteration[edit]

In Hebrew noun precedes adjective, so the term in Hebrew is "אמריקאים ישראלים" (Ameriqaim Yisra'elim) and not "ישראלים אמריקאים" (Yisra'elim Ameriqaim).

In Hebrew, there is difference between words (consisting of geographical names) related to people and those, which are related to objects. So if the matter was American products, the translation of "American" (plural) to Hebrew was "אמריקנים" (Ameriqanim), but since the matter is American people, the translation should be "אמריקאים" (Ameriqaim).

The right transliteration for the Hebrew letter "ק" is "q" and not "k". The latter is the right transliteration for the letter "כּ", which resembles "ק" in sound. --Mebop (talk) 19:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Relationship with American Jews[edit]

Hello,

This is a message for Yaniv, I am very concerned by what seems to be the biased interpretation of the relationship between the Jewish Israeli-American and the Jewish-American population in general which is seemingly is not entirely reflected in the research or their respective links or references. Some of the so called original research was conducted over 25 years ago which proves that they don’t have complete validity to today’s society or the current state of affairs between these two communities. Case in point the first reference was from 1991. Most the other links in this section are either dead, inactive or inaccessible. My last edit to this topic was not an intention to pass off uncorroborated facts as legitimate original research. I was merely trying to emphasise that there has been a shift in attitudes especially in that of the Orthdox community which is actually explained in the later part of the article but I felt as a Wikipedia editor that the text and explanations presented here were too needlessly ambiguous. I am also certain that I did not violate any of the rules or terms and my edit did not pose any violations as such. Another issue I would like to bring up is the bizarre contrast in this entry, even with all its potential complexities in the general relationship between Jewish Israeli-Americans and other Jewish-Americans, it is illogical or maybe even impossible to state or imply on the one hand that communication and interaction between these two comunities is very negligible and yet most Jewish Israelis in the USA will only marry Jewish partners the later being mostly American. Quote from the article: An estimated 75% of Israeli Americans marry within the Jewish community, as opposed to about 50% of non-Israeli Jewish Americans. It is not stated that 75% of Israeli Americans marry within the Israeli community but rather within the Jewish community, most likely meaning "The general Jewish community" I feel it is important to also point out that as of yesterday when I last checked the Hebrew article, the statistics regarding marriage between these two communities were not translated into the respective language. That might be something worth fixing. I believe this statistic is most likely accurate and given if I have the time I would be more than happy in future to search for links to prove it. I haven’t had the time to check this article in other languages yet other than in English or Hebrew.. If everyone’s impact and contributions are truely appreciated on Wikipedia, at least the contributions of those with registered accounts, it would be wise to not delete our edits wit a simple message consisting of two words like the one I received. I also think that in light of the complex circumstances regarding community relationships that if there is a lack of sources for this article more flexibility should be exersized by Wikipedia in allowing edits to be made. I hope this message resonates with those responsible for this entry/article and with the other editors of Wikipedia as well. I do hope that I do not have to take this matter any further and would really appreciate if someone responds to this thread.


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Israeli Émigrés[edit]

"Israeli immigration to the United States developed during the 1980s and 1990s due to a number of reasons, including the war between Israelis and Palestinians and high taxes and lack of housing available in their homeland. Also, the acquisition of aspects of American culture (especially fashion and entertainment) in Israel caused many Israelis to want to have the economic and educational opportunities of the United States."

This needs a citation as well as general editing (looks like it's a word-for-word translation from Hebrew). Based on my own anecdotal knowledge on the subject Israeli emigration to the US is almost exclusively in the pursuit of economic opportunities. The housing crisis in Israel ma have been a contributing factor, but without any empirical evidence I don't think that it would be correct to include it as a primary cause. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.253.174.252 (talk) 08:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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