Talk:List of Israeli inventions and discoveries

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Merge proposal[edit]

I believe it would be a mistake to merge this article to some other article. As you can see the navigation infobox at the bottom of the article - the English Wikipedia has many more articles which contain detailed lists of inventions and discoveries in many other various countries world wide in addition to having articles that contain only a more general overview of the fields of science and technology in those countries. Why should we make an exception in this case? TheCuriousGnome (talk) 19:55, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since no one decided to participate in this merge proposal discussion and/or to answer my above question, if no one would participate in this discussion by tomorrow, I would go ahead and remove the merge template from the article tomorrow. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 00:49, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • MergeKeep -- The articles go over the same material. A few things are listed here, that aren't covered in detail on the other page. I suggest we take the things that aren't mentioned on the other page, put them in, expand on them, and be done with it.

Homo Logica (talk) 19:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article Science and technology in Israel is not supposed to present a long list of inventions and discoveries which originated in Israel. Please check other similar articles on the English Wikipedia and I am sure you would see for yourself that the articles which cover the fields of science and technology in various countries do not contain such lists (see the following articles - Science and technology in Japan, Science and technology in Germany) TheCuriousGnome (talk) 23:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't suggesting that it be in list format. I was pointing out that the same things were mentioned in the other article, making it virtually redundant. However. I did notice that there are similar lists for other countries, again, despite heavy overlap. As such, I am changing my vote to Keep.
Homo Logica (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cherry tomatoes[edit]

There are countless reliable sources on the web that confirm the claim that the Israeli researchers Nachum Kedar and Haim Rabinowitch from the Agriculture Faculty of the Hebrew University developed the cherry tomatoes. Nevertheless, the article Cherry tomato on the English Wikipedia specifically states that cherry tomatoes were actually cultivated since at least the early 1800s. So what exactly did Kedar and Rabinowitch develop? TheCuriousGnome (talk) 15:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are many many many examples of cherry tomatoes cultivated before the 70's, which is when Israel claims to have invented them. ([1], [F. Smith, Andrew (1994). The tomato in America: early history, culture, and cookery. ISBN 978-1-57003-000-0.], [2], [3], [4], [5]). Near as I've been able to figure, Kedar and Rabinowitch developed a variety of cherry tomato. The Israeli government has been claiming that the cherry tomato was an Israeli development in an effort to make Israel look better[6]. (I'm not sure how making claims that are easily verified as false is supposed to do that, but there you have it.)--StvFetterly(Edits) 19:58, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cherry tomatoes are known from as far back as Aztec Mexico in the 15th century in Mesoamerica. Also in the 19th century CE Greek chroniclers noted Greeks bringing cherry tomato seeds back from the Sinai in Egypt Santorini (tomato). The claims on this Israeli variety, is just that simply one variety of something that has existed again since at least as far back as Aztec Mexico!

Nobel prize for Kahneman and Tversky[edit]

Somehow, all other Nobel laureates are mentioned, but they don't. Any particular reason ? 122.150.37.211 (talk) 04:44, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kahnemann should be mentioned as Nobel laureate. Tversky, however, was already dead, so no Noble prize for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.6.11.15 (talk) 13:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bamba[edit]

According to the Wikipedia Bamba page, it was invented by a German company.Unchartered (talk) 11:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bamba is a corn puff, and corn puffs were invented in the USA in the 1930s. I don't really think substituting peanut flavor for cheese qualifies as an invention, but even if it did you're quite right - that was first done in Germany.--FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 14:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant information or not?[edit]

Hi, I was wondering if it'd be okay to add a new sub-section under "computing" about popular Israeli made/created phone application. I don't know if this type of "inventions" should be included in the article.. Some possible sources I considered using are: 1 2 3 4/5. Any comments? Thanks, Shalom11111 (talk) 19:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I would say that Waze is a good candidate to put in such a section (it can also include computer programs such as ICQ, not just phone apps), but be careful to put there only the most prominent programs. Eldar (talk) 01:13, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are all these really inventions?[edit]

A lot of the items listed here are only inventions by the most generous criteria imaginable, especially in the defence section. For example the Tavor, Uzi and Python are all undeniably Israeli-designed weapons, but Israel did not invent the assault rifle, submachinegun or air to air missile. I'd say these are new designs rather than inventions. --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 01:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with this entry, there's an awful lot of entries on this page that are barely unique inventions/discoveries and quite a few erroneous claims. Galdrack (talk) 12:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what about Israeli espionage/theft, etc?[edit]

e.g.

http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/01/27/stealing-success-tel-aviv-style/

seems like it warrants a mention, no?

50.252.249.155 (talk)mpk40 — Preceding undated comment added 19:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Creating such a section would be warranted only if there is a more trustworthy source than the above link. Eldar (talk) 23:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannabis research[edit]

Israel is a pioneer in Cannabis research. I think that should be there in the list :) 96.54.228.6 (talk) 15:01, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear Scope and objective of page[edit]

This page has quite a lot of innaccurate entries and claims, a big problem stems from the opening text "inventions and discoveries by Israeli scientists and researchers, working locally or overseas.". Including Israeli's living overseas is very misleading given the title and is not very representative. On similar pages this is not the case as the inventions/discoveries are generally attributed by the country itself or previous versions of that country (Eg different French republics).

Also a lot of entries are patents of a specific variant rather than an Invention or Discovery. Galdrack (talk) 13:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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