Talk:Ottawa Public Library

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Largest bilingual library in North America[edit]

1) this needs a reference, 2) define largest bilingual. Is it the largest library with books in more than one language? In which case there are larger libraries and almost every library has some books in another language. Is it based on staff language? Equal distribution of books in languages? Ill defined and unreferenced. Needs fixing or removing. Canterbury Tail talk 02:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd bother to do even a basic Google search it's easily available information. Please put in an ounce of effort before tagging articles. Saboteurest (talk) 05:05, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging of articles happens when people question the items in them that are unreferenced but are unwilling to just delete the unreferenced material outright. That is the point of tagging articles. Tags often happen to draw people's attention to things but when someone is unable to locate a reliable reference. For instance the reference that you put in, which I did indeed locate on a quick search, is not usable due to it being a primary source. As you know we need reliable secondary or tertiary sources. In this instance OPL is making a claim that is unsubstantiated and unsupported by third party references and as a result can't be used to support this statement. This is the core of Wikipedia's referencing policy. Canterbury Tail talk 12:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, what is a bilingual library? That remains to be defined. However the reference to support the largest one is invalid as mentioned due to it being a primary source. Canterbury Tail talk 18:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The "source" that's been provided for the information here is the library's own primary source website about itself, not a reliable source that has independently verified the claim. Canterbury Tail is actually correct about this — the statement does require some additional context to clarify what is being measured, exactly: number of lendable materials? Number of staff? Size of budget? Number of branches?

And furthermore, what particular percentage of materials in each language have to be present to mark the distinction between a "bilingual library system" and a "French-language library system that also has English-language materials" like the Montreal Public Libraries Network, or an English-language library system with a significantly sized Spanish language collection like the systems in Los Angeles or Miami? So yes, both clarification of what's actually being measured, and better sourcing for it than the library's own self-published website, are required here. Bearcat (talk) 23:01, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that Saboteurest has been blocked indefinitely as a sock of the community-banned UrbanNerd. Perhaps some of the long-term watchers of similar pages recall UrbanNerd. If IPs or newly registered users suddenly appear to make edits to the article or talk page similar to those of Saboteurest, please consider listing the IPs or users at User:UrbanNerd. Hwy43 (talk) 04:55, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]