Talk:Al-Qasim ibn Hasan ibn Ali

Rewriting the article[edit]

I was accused of copying and pasting this article of Hazrat Qasim ibn Hassan (AS) from another website by Grenavitar, and I totally disagree with him. Trying to forget about the accusation, I have again tried my best to rewrite this article in a neutral way. I hope that others will not have any problem with this articles as far as the neutrally and copyright violations of wikipedia are concerned. I you think that this article has been copied from another website then please post your message along with the URL of that website and I will be more then happy to help to answer the questions. Thank You Salman

al-qasim ibn al-hasan: historical errors and myths.[edit]

(1) You mentioned that qasim born in 669, his father died when the boy was three years old. historically, it is well known that the father poisoned and died within few hours in 669(or 670). (2) the boy left Medina, with his uncle in the summer of 680 not 670. (3) your source is melodramatised the events of qasim death and turned to an unbelivable legends, such as :

A)the letter of the father predicting and advising his boy to defend his uncle 
B)the coversation between the boy and his mother on the eve of the battle. 
C)the heroic action of the boy in the battlefield.

I expected the Wikipedia information to be logical an rational, unfortunatly in this chapter i am really disappointed.

Dr.K. Hussain King's college London —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.73.34.188 (talk) 16:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

contradiction in birth dates[edit]

The article says that he was born on 7 Sha'aban 47 AH, which is in 667 CE. But it also says he was born in 669 CE. --Delirium (talk) 01:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability Tag[edit]

I rewrote the article and also added more reliable source. Now we can remove the notability tag.Saff V. (talk) 12:52, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Imagine that on 19th September 2018, the main page of Wikipedia said "Qasim ibn Hasan was born 1350 years ago." Many people would then look at this article and wonder why Qasim was notable.

Articles need to show why people are notable. Look at the article on Falkes de Breauté - you will never have heard of him - but if you read the article you can see why he was notable.

Qasim took part in a notable event. Does that make Qasim notable?
Qasim had notable relatives; does that make him notable?

Suggest you look at Wikipedia:Notability

The article is terrible - I have checked two of your citations and they do not back up the text. By the way Jafariyanews is not exactly a reliable source.

~~Are you ashamed of~~ his mother~~? She~~ was a slave wife (Tabari vol XIX, pub SUNY, p 180). ~~I noticed that the Jafariyanews article you cited named his mother, but the article does not.~~

Correction - ~~the text of the article does not mention her alleged name~~ - though she is mentioned in the infobox.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article has a story about how Qasim died. But the source cited does not have this story.

If you want to know who killed Qasim, it was Sa'd ibn 'Amr ibn Nufayl al-Azdi (Tabari vol XIX, pub SUNY, p 180).-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Even if better sources are found, nothing in the article indicates that Qasim ibn Hassan was notable. Being related to notable people does not make s subject notable. Neither dies dying in a notable battle. Edward321 (talk) 00:06, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Edward321: We must first confirm notability of a subject with sources and then write the text of article. Sources of article confirm the subject is notable. You must open your eye and see references.Saff V. (talk) 12:30, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nnothing in the article indicates that Qasim ibn Hassan was notable. Being related to notable people does not make s subject notable. Neither dies dying in a notable battle. If there is something else in the sources that indicates the subject is notable, then you need to post it. Edward321 (talk) 14:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Improve the article[edit]

I improved the article and added more reliable sources. Also, I tried to resolve the issues mentioned. Now we can remove the notability tag. M1nhm (talk) 06:29, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]