Talk:Ulysses (novel)

Eumaeus: "rambling and laboured style of the narrative"

The description of this episode’s style is accurate enough but the ascribed authorial motive, i.e., to [reflect] the nervous exhaustion and confusion of the two protagonists,” is of secondary importance to Joyce’s obvious intention of parodying the late-nineteenth century style of popular fiction, amateurishly intrusive and familiar, that Bloom himself would have admired and emulated. Orthotox (talk) 22:31, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

"peripatetic appointments and encounters"

I can't get this edit approved for some reason, but not only is the word "peripatetic" arcane and unnecessary, it's used incorrectly here.

"traveling from place to place, in particular working or based in various places for relatively short periods"

The character is peripatetic, not his appointments and encounters.

I don't know why my edit which increases clarity and accessibility would be reverted. Antigravity711 (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I believe it does fit, and "working" is not a necessary condition for its use. The word likely is familiar to anyone interested in reading Joyce. Kablammo (talk) 17:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

- I agree with @Antigravity711:, the word is misused - it should properly be, "Ulysses chronicles the appointments and encounters of the peripatetic Leopold Bloom" – also, it is redundant – to say "Ulysses chronicles the appointments and encounters of Leopold Bloom in Dublin in the course of an ordinary day" implies that Bloom travels from place to place, so there is no need for peripatetic – I would support removing peripatetic from the sentence as unnecessary verbiage – cheers - Epinoia (talk) 17:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Also this is an informative article *about* a Joyce novel, for the general public, so "readers of Joyce would be familiar with the word" is irrelevant and frankly gatekeeping. Antigravity711 (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I disagree with the assertion that this is gatekeeping-- it is a common word, and this is not Simple Wikipedia.

The term is used here, wherein the work is called "Joyce's story about a peripatetic Jewish protagonist". (Click on "read more" to find it.)

I am interested also in your take on Joyce's second use of the word in the work-- search the full text to find it.

Regards. Kablammo (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

- That usage just first confirms my assertion, because in the sentence you quoted, the protagonist is peripatetic, not his appointments. The word is used incorrectly in this article. Appointments don't travel from place to place. People do.

Antigravity711 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm a university professor, and the word stuck out to me immediately as unnecessary. It inhibits clarity and accessibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.161.253.62 (talk) 23:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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The first edition of the novel, published 2 February 1922

• ... that the penultimate chapter of James Joyce's novel "Ulysses" is formatted as a "mathematical" catechism of 309 questions and answers? Source: McCarthy, Patrick A., "Joyce's Unreliable Catechist: Mathematics and the Narrative of 'Ithaca'", ELH, Vol. 51, No. 3 (Autumn 1984), pp. 605–606, quoting Joyce in Letters From James Joyce. A famous example is Joyce's apparent rendering of the year 1904 into the impossible Roman numeral MXMIV (p. 669 of the 1961 Modern Library edition)
  • ALT1: ... that "Ithaca", the penultimate episode of James Joyce's "Ulysses", talks of urinary trajectories? Source: Hefferman, James A. W. (2001) Joyce's Ulysses. Chantilly, VA: The Teaching Company LP.
  • ALT2: ... that Episode 14 of James Joyce's "Ulysses" recounts the entire history of the English language through puns and wordplay? Source: Wales, Kathleen (1989). "The "Oxen of the Sun" in "Ulysses": Joyce and Anglo-Saxon". James Joyce Quarterly. 26. 3: 319–330.

Created by ColdSteelKing (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC).

• Hi ColdSteelKing, this article was not newly created, expanded fivefold, or promoted to Good Article within the last week. It is not eligible for DYK. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:20, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

On this (Blooms)day

There's still a week left to address the issues at Wikipedia_talk:Selected_anniversaries/June_16#What,_no_mention_of_Bloomsday? and rescue Bloomsday for the main page. Sparafucil (talk) 22:09, 6 June 2022 (UTC)