Talk:Yeung Sau-king

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Page Title[edit]

I argue that the page title should be Yeung Sau-King. The google shows Archives of the Swimmer on a variety of websites like Olympic.org and Newspapers.com on the first page when typed "Yueng Sau-king". While the results are about a Chinese journalist when typed "Yang Xiuqiong". BTW, there is an infobox on the right of the page shows "Yeung Sau-King" on the search result page of "Yang Xiuqiong". Yeung was born in Hong Kong and remains Cantonese-based romanization of her name throughout her life. The title of the page was "Yeung Sau-King" and it was moved to Yang Xiuqiong in May 2018. MNXANL (talk) 22:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The best thing is to log it at requested moves and see what happens. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:08, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 February 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yang Xiuqiong → Yeung Sau-king – WP:ZHNAME. Name of person from Hong Kong. More commonly-used romanization (see reasons listed above). MNXANL (talk) 09:50, 9 February 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 17:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. She is best known for representing China in the 1936 Olympics, and the vast majority of modern sources use the standard pinyin spelling "Yang Xiuqiong": Google books search for "Yang Xiuqiong" returns 512 results, vs. just 43 for "Yeung Sau-King". -Zanhe (talk) 19:25, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Google search result does not just include the swimmer "Yang", but also the social-activist "Yang". Yang Xiuqiong is just the alternative romanization of her name based in Mandarin. MNXANL (talk) 07:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody's talking about Google web search, which is quite useless for move discussions. On Google books (which is not polluted by pages of non-notable people), all results for "Yang Xiuqiong" refer to the swimmer. -Zanhe (talk) 00:34, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 19 May 2020[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved as uncontentious. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yang Xiuqiong → Yeung Sau-king – 1. 'Yeung Sau-king' was likely the English name that Ms. Yeung called herself. 2. A large number of contemporary sources including numerous newspaper articles (see a small number of newspaper articles here:^[1] and the official 1936 Olympics report used 'Yeung Sau-king'. It is analogous to using 'Sun Yat-sen' and not 'Sun Yixian' to refer to the first provisional president of the Republic of China. 3. 'Yeung Sau-king' was used in some important books in the subject matter, including 'A Quest for Gold' (ISBN 9789622097667), 'Sport in Asian Society' (ISBN 9781135760434), etc. 4. The name in Pinyin 'Yang Xiuqiong' is artificial and does not help facilitate further research. It was used in some post-2007 publications due to the authors' lack of knowledge of her English name, and/or the need to conform to some artificial style guides.

References

^ https://yeungsauking.blogspot.com/2019/12/blog-post.html

– CC123C (talk) 09:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, especially per the newspaper sources from the time when she was active. Retroactive sinicization of her name may be caused either by a lack of awareness stemming from the reliance on Chinese-language sources. feminist | wear a mask, protect everyone 12:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttps://yeungsauking.blogspot.com/2019/12/blog-post.html

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