Template talk:Naval Vessel Register

Link parameters added

I have added two parameters to the NVR template based on discussion at Template talk:DANFS. It accepts up to two external links to NVR entries. If you don't provide a parameter, and simply use {{NVR}}, it gives the same result as before:

This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain.

Using {{NVR|http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/DDG81.htm}} produces this:

This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain. The entry can be found here.

Using {{NVR|http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/DDG81.htm|http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/DDG81.htm}} produces this:

This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain. The entries can be found here and here.

I don't know why you would want to include two links, but I had just added the two-link functionality to {{DANFS}} and figured it couldn't hurt to add it here. TomTheHand (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Category changes

{{editprotected}}

Dear admins:

I propose the following relatively minor changes be made to this template.

First, the Category:Attribution templates is superfluous because the template is already in Category:United States government attribution templates. It should be removed.

Secondly, the category within the "includeonly" tags, Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from public domain works of the United States Government, should be changed to Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the Naval Vessel Register. (I have been trying to break up the former category a bit, because it is very large.)

Additionally, you may want to consider putting one of those "padlock" templates on here to show everyone that this is a fully-protected template.

Thanks. --Eastlaw ^talk ⁄ _contribs 02:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 05:11, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Suggested wording change

Template currently reads:

• This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain.

Suggested change to:

• This article includes information from the Naval Vessel Register which is in the public domain .

This would simplify reading

--Brad (talk) 03:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes. Do this!--Trappist the monk (talk) 17:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Reform the template output to enhance accessibility

This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain. The entry can be found here.

The entry can be found here.

here

Accessibility would dictate that the linked text should be descriptive of the link's purpose. The here isn't meaningful. Scanning the text generated by the NVR template, the eye sees the end of the first sentence and then lands on here. The eye pauses and then reads the sentence: The entry can be found here. No real indication of where the link leads, so, the eye must now read the entire template output. Someone with visual impairment using a reading tool might have even more difficulty.

Perhaps the template output should be changed to read something like:

This article includes text from the {{PAGENAME}} entry in the public domain Naval Vessel Register.

Using the {{PAGENAME}} magic word (see Help:Magic words) would seem to mean that the changes to the existing {{NVR}} template would be relatively minor. Of course there is the issue of italics:

This article includes text from the USS Will Rogers (SSBN-659) entry ...

--or--

This article includes text from the public domain Naval Vessel Register's {{PAGENAME}} entry.

I'm sure that there are other possible sentence constructs that would fit the bill.

And, while I'm thinking of this, the {{DANFS}} template should be modified in the same way. In fact, I see no reason why both shouldn't output the same generic text. I've created a talk subject about re-wording the {{DANFS}} template on the DANFS talk page. --Trappist the monk (talk) 17:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Please create a version at Template:NVR/sandbox that meets the following requirements:

1. Reads correctly for all testcases.
2. Does not read incorrectly even if {{PAGENAME}} does not match the topic if the linked entry.

Then reapply {{edit protected}} Anomie⚔ 20:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Begun.

--Trappist the monk (talk) 17:21, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

Greetings and felicitations. In the template, please change this

This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain.

to this:

This article includes information collected from the Naval Vessel Register, which, as a U.S. government publication, is in the public domain.

as the title of the article "Naval Vessel Register" is italicized. —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:40, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk and Hike395: (Most recent editors): Hello? —DocWatson42 (talk) 09:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 22 October 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move. I will leave implementation to a knowledgeable editor (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 03:19, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Template:NVR → Template:Naval Vessel Register – As per the recent move of Template:NVR url * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• Support for easier identification & comprehension. BegbertBiggs (talk) 00:17, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.