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Your GA nomination of LinkNYC

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After your removal of citations from the introduction at Fake news website

This is why I was extremely wary of your removal of all of the citations from the introduction at Fake news website at [1].

Please see discussion page at [2].

And please see the recent edits by Crossswords where he's tagging literally everything now in the introduction section with "citation needed" tags, directly against WP:CITELEAD.

Maybe it is better to avoid conflict and just add all those citations back into the introduction section again ?

Sagecandor (talk) 05:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

FYI, Seems to be agreement with Neutrality to keep the cites in the intro, per discussion at [3]. Sagecandor (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: The citations are explicitly not needed in the intro as per WP:LEADCITE. I'll leave a note to that effect. Thanks for telling me about this. epicgenius (talk) 18:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I agree with you on principle, but disagree on this particular article. As we can see from the talk page, every single thing in the article is "contentious" due to influx of complainants from Trolls from Olgino. So best way to solve that problem is to keep the cites. Sagecandor (talk) 18:46, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
This is not an optimal situation, but I don't see any policy saying "No citations are allowed in the lead except for in XXX situation." Let's leave the citations there if that's the case. epicgenius (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but the problem is the Trolls from Olgino don't know about those policies and they just come in and tag everything. Also there are a couple of direct quotations in the intro that should definitely keep the cites as quotes. Sagecandor (talk) 18:52, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Wait, isn't the fake news website article semi-protected? So these trolls shouldn't be actually be able to edit the article unless they have 10 edits and 4 days' experience. If not, we can try asking for extended confirmed protection for this page. epicgenius (talk) 18:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
We should definitely ask for extended confirmed protection, I'm not sure how that is better than semi. It's already semi but only temporary semi. But anyways yeah there appear to be several sleeper accounts from Trolls from Olgino that are not new. Remember they're pretty advanced. Highly recommended reading: [4] [5]. Sagecandor (talk) 18:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
ECP requires editors to stick around for 30 days with 500 good edits before editing the article. This may decrease the number of trolls, as I'm sure some may not like to stay for long. On the other hand, trolling can go on for years, so I see your point. It's worth asking anyway. epicgenius (talk) 19:10, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Let's just wait to see what happens after the temporary semi expires because it was the first time the page was ever protected before. Sagecandor (talk) 19:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

citing WP:LEADCITE

"The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis by editorial consensus. Complex, current, or controversial subjects may require many citations; others, few or none. The presence of citations in the introduction is neither required in every article nor prohibited in any article."

Your unilateral decision to remove all citations from the lead of Dakota Access Pipeline protests without seeking consensus has been noted. Some, myself included, might reasonably consider your behavior aggressive. SashiRolls (talk) 21:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Since I see that you are also involved on the "Fake news website" page (which is quite rightly considered biased by most of those commenting), you might consider doing your work there, where it would be more useful. Incidentally, I'm not really cross with you, you did not delete references on DAPL protest, which is what I thought you had done when I first looked at it. I corrected the minor mistakes you introduced and note that you corrected one mistake I'd made (forgot a hyphen in high-profile). Thanks for that. Now, why don't you bring your LEADCITE zeal over to Fake news website, which is an article that really needs balancing attention (as the talk page attests).

Thanks! SashiRolls (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Asked and answered already, at Talk:Fake_news_website#Citations_in_introduction_of_Fake_news_website. Sagecandor (talk) 22:05, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't know about this. Does the lead of the NoDAPL article need citations, either? It seems everything in that article's lead is also repeated, with references, in the body. Also, the only person who seems to object to this so far is SashiRolls (as Sagecandor simply brought this objection to my attention, per the above.) epicgenius (talk) 01:15, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Concerns with a couple hopefully good natured copy editors

Epicgenius, I've got concerns with a couple (hopefully good natured) copy editors.

At first, the first user came by and instead of copy editing, simply reverted to an older version of the article claiming all my copy edits were bad.

I happen to be a native English speaker with many years of school and much coursework over the years in writing, composition, copy editing, etc.

But that's neither here nor there, the main crux of the problem is: (1) wholesale reverting instead of discussing, (2) refusal to use the article talk page and ignoring my requests to do so, (3) enlisting friends to perform same reverts and same behavior of ignoring requests to use the talk page.

Asks friend to make same revert [6].

Friend shows up and makes same revert -- this time wholesale revert including reverting not just my copy editing but all of my additions of new content as well [7].

I've asked both the first user and the enlisted new friend 2nd user to come to the article talk page to discuss.

Both have either ignored me or refused to do so.

Not sure how to go from here? Sagecandor (talk) 02:29, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Epicgenius, this edit -- did that undo all my copy edits? Just curious? Because I think it may have. For example, now the first sentence starts out: "Fake news websites are websites ..." Note the phrasing "websites are websites". Is that not redundant? Sagecandor (talk) 02:31, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Epicgenius, you wrote: "One Sweden newspaper", that seems like awkward wording, perhaps that was a mistake? It looks like the intro section is getting more verbose with extra wording. I was trying to copy edit and cut down on the wording and make it a bit more succinct. Can we please discuss? Sagecandor (talk) 02:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Epicgenius, can we please talk about this? Sagecandor (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
@Sagecandor: Thanks for your comments. First off, next time, could you post all of these comments in a single post? It looks like a threaded discussion otherwise. Second, I'll have a look at it later, when I have time. (And quickly - no, not all your copy edits were undone - only some of them were reworded.) epicgenius (talk) 02:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay but which ones? Can you comment to "websites are websites" and why that is not redundant in the first sentence, please? Sagecandor (talk) 02:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Fake news websites are websites... is technically correct. Though it may seem redundant, we are confirming that fake news websites aren't something else. We may have to reword that, though. How about Fake news websites are sites...? epicgenius (talk) 05:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Hey man, thanks for the response! Yeah, how about this, I wikilinked the first instance of the word websites, so the reader knows what a "website" is. Better? Sagecandor (talk) 05:25, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. epicgenius (talk) 14:04, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Significant concerns with [8] as related to [9]. Attention would be appreciated. Sagecandor (talk) 16:04, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I'll check these out later. Thanks, epicgenius (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
More concerns about same here [10]. Rather than adding word "some", user just decides to delete the entire thing. Telling. Edits appear to be solely focused on minimizing or outright deleting mentions of Russian propaganda akin to Trolls of Olgino intelligence operation. Sagecandor (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Change to weaken confidence in Western institutions ... "Western institutions" ??? This almost sounds like something right out of a Russian intelligence playbook, yes? Sagecandor (talk) 22:31, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
I'd think that, but then again, the West is mostly associated with capitalist government. A bit biased against Western government, but I'd tend to agree with the edit's general premise (though "democratic" is more specific). epicgenius (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay thanks for the helpful explanation. Sagecandor (talk) 01:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Aqueduct Racetrack

Thanks for your work on the Aqueduct Racetrack article. Is there anything else I can help with on the article? Thanks--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC).

@Kew Gardens 613: Thank you for helping to add information. I think anything that is noteworthy and relevant would help as long as it's supported by a reliable source. epicgenius (talk) 02:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Mackensen doesn't know why you made an exemption for that nycsubway.org reference. Could you please check out the Good Article review? Thanks.
You mean this one, Kew Gardens? It isn't really needed now, since we have a better reference. epicgenius (talk) 19:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Aqueduct Racetrack (IND Rockaway Line)

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Your GA nomination of 75th Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line)

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Your GA nomination of 75th Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line)

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DYK for 72nd Street (Second Avenue Subway)

On 10 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 72nd Street (Second Avenue Subway), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 72nd, 86th, and 96th Street stations along the Second Avenue Subway are part of the New York City Subway's first major expansion in over half a century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/72nd Street (Second Avenue Subway). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 72nd Street (Second Avenue Subway)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for 86th Street (Second Avenue Subway)

On 10 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 86th Street (Second Avenue Subway), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 72nd, 86th, and 96th Street stations along the Second Avenue Subway are part of the New York City Subway's first major expansion in over half a century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/86th Street (Second Avenue Subway). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 86th Street (Second Avenue Subway)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK for 96th Street (Second Avenue Subway)

On 10 December 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 96th Street (Second Avenue Subway), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 72nd, 86th, and 96th Street stations along the Second Avenue Subway are part of the New York City Subway's first major expansion in over half a century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/96th Street (Second Avenue Subway). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 96th Street (Second Avenue Subway)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Chinese in New York City

Hi Epicgenius, hope you're doing well. How's this banner coming along? Best, Castncoot (talk) 12:40, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Castncoot: It's almost done (but by now, this banner is more delayed than the MTA). So I hope to have it soon. epicgenius (talk) 17:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Looking eagerly to see the finished product! Best, Castncoot (talk) 21:30, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Epicgenius, hope you're doing well. Are we nearly there? Being that the end of the year is rapidly approaching, what do you think of posting whatever you've got done in stub format now, and then expanding and improving upon it as time goes along? Best, Castncoot (talk) 20:24, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
@Castncoot: I've created a new "stub" template here ("stub" being in the sense that the required subcategories and related project still needs to be created). Thanks, epicgenius (talk) 20:37, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I think it looks terrific as a "stub template". I'm not sure why you couldn't post it as is and continue making it a work in progress. Obviously I wouldn't want it not to be in your comfort zone to post yet, perhaps you're trying to refine it a bit more before posting. But IMHO, I don't think we should delay this much longer, given that the end of the year is right around the corner. Best, Castncoot (talk) 20:58, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
All right. I think we can also include the ratings for WikiProject Chinese in New York City inside the {{WikiProject New York City}} banner (like how WikiProject New York City Public Transportation is also included in the WPNYC banner despite the existence of {{WikiProject New York City Public Transportation}}). epicgenius (talk) 21:18, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
That would be a great idea. I'm just thinking in fact that you could emulate your deep topic experience with the New York metropolitan area transit issues into a model for this. Maybe each different article in the project could represent a different "stop" on a diagrammed "subway line", lol! Best, Castncoot (talk) 22:39, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I agree, though there's going to be dozens or possibly hundreds of stops to consider... epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps let it go live this weekend? Best, Castncoot (talk) 05:14, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
@Castncoot: It is already live. I just need to create the project page and appropriate categories. epicgenius (talk) 05:35, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Royal free city

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Your GA nomination of 75th Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line)

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Buses that are not listed on Disney Transport

Hi there Epicgenius. I was hanging out at WDW today, trying to see if I could capture a picture of the elusive 7 buses that we don't have a picture of (spoiler alert, I haven't found them). In my quest, I found 3 buses that, according to the table you so kindly created, do not exist (such as bus number 5199). I was wondering if you wouldn't mind adding them to the table, because I do not know the specs on them. I took pictures of their barcodes, which I posted to Flickr and not Commons to try to help you. Thanks, Elisfkc (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Update, I found one of the missing articulated buses, in a poorly lit corner of the TTC. I'll upload the images to Commons soon. Elisfkc (talk) 00:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
@Elisfkc: That list is out of date, as it doesn't include the articulated buses introduced in 2016. I'll look for these fleet numbers and update the list accordingly. Thank you, epicgenius (talk) 02:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
@Elisfkc: I've added the missing buses. Regards, epicgenius (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Sweet, thanks. I uploaded images of 5147 last night (smallest category they are in is Commons:Category:Number 5147 on vehicles). I'll let you decide which one should be displayed for the New Flyer XD60's. Elisfkc (talk) 19:27, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

thumb|The only thing I didn't really like was the glare of the skylight in the top left corner, but hey, we gotta take what we have.

Nice images. I added File:Disney Bus Number 5147-13 (30860476133).jpg to the article. Ideally, the best image would be of the front and the side with the fleet number visible. I picked this one because it had the front and the fleet number, as well as part of the side. epicgenius (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Good to know for the future what the ideal image is. Elisfkc (talk) 19:57, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hello Epicgenius: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 15:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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@Northamerica1000: Thank you! I hope your holidays and New Year's are swell, too. epicgenius (talk) 15:52, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks, and thanks for using the term "swell" in contemporary times! North America1000 16:00, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
  • You're welcome. (I was thinking of Santa when I was typing that, so...) epicgenius (talk) 16:02, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hello Epicgenius/Archive/2016: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Tenebrae (talk) 09:52, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

@Tenebrae: Thanks! Happy holidays to you too! epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

World Trade Center PATH

Thank you for converting the bulleted list into prose. I had been intending to do that, but I have had school work to do. Also, thank you once again for your work on articles related to SAS, as well as the South Ferry article. We should nominated to be a GA. It is great working with you. Will you go to SAS on opening day? I am.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: You're welcome on both counts. I think that, for the South Ferry article, once we find sources for the section about the BMT station, it can be nominated for GA status. (Also, unfortunately for me, I have a lot of schoolwork due on January 1, so I can't go, but I will check it out on January 3.) epicgenius (talk) 21:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
I agree in terms of what needs to be done on that page. This is something I have always wanted to ask you. How do you have the time to make so many edits on wikipedia AND still have time to do schoolwork?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:05, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
There was a Washington Post article that mentioned me a while back. Long story short, I don't really edit during school time anymore. I only do it during breaks or after doing all my work. epicgenius (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
OK. So you edited during school. I am glad that you don't do that anymore. I thought that I was obsessed! I have told other people at school about my knowledge of the subway system. In one instance, a girl who uses the Grand Avenue–Newtown station asked me when it opened. I responded saying, December 31, 1936. She didn't believe me. Next day in school, she said I was right. Of course she checked wikipedia. More recently someone in my English class asked me when the Parsons Boulevard station on the F opened. I said April 24, 1937. The person next to her thought I made that up. The person checked wikipedia and found that I was right. I love wikipedia as it is an easy way for people to get information. It is not always reliable, but with hard work and effort, that can be changed. People are impressed when they find out that I have added to and created articles on wikipedia. There is something else I wanted to ask you. How did you get interested in the subway system? Are you as crazy enough as me to remember every little detail? I am sorry if I am bombarding you with information. Happy holidays and I need to get to bed! Have a great evening. --Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 03:19, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
So, (1) I am very interested in math and computer programming, and marginally about politics, language, and odd/unusual things. I like infrastructure in general (energy and water in addition to transportation), and the NYC Bus/Subway system is an interest of mine since I live in NYC. (2) I don't have the exact dates of the stations memorized like you do. That's impressive. Sometimes, I don't even know the correct year that the lines opened, not that many people care (they ask me more about. I originally thought the entire Flushing Line opened in 1915 when, really, it was only the Queens section that opened in that time.
Also, interesting story (which is true, by the way): a friend of mine is friends with a famous singer whose songs were on Billboard Hot 100 a couple years ago, and told them that I edited Wikipedia. The singer thought that was really cool and asked my friend to ask me to change their wiki page. (I did... but I didn't vandalize it. I did a few grammatical corrections. Now that article is a little better. )
Anyway, happy holidays to you too. epicgenius (talk) 04:25, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

New York City Subway in the 1970s and 1980s

Hi, Epicgenius. I am trying to split off some of the content from the History of the New York City Subway article. This, I thought, would be a good start. I have added some information. If possible, could you help by adding references, and improving the content to make it its own article. Once it is completed, the content should be summarized in the history article. Hopefully, then, we will able to do this for other timeframes. Then we could have an article on the more recent history of the subway system, and then we can split off some information from the New York City Subway article. Please tell me what you think. Thank you again.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 03:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea. However, we should do a post-unification article (e.g. History of the New York City Subway after unification), since that will cover a bigger scope and also provide a lot of context into the problems of the 70s and 80s. epicgenius (talk) 03:31, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Could you help me with that when you have a chance? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:11, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

W train on BMT Fourth Avenue Line

I have also tried to revert the edits. On the 59th Street (BMT Fourth Avenue Line) infobox the W bullet shows up and I don't know how to remove it. Could you help with that? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: I think what you can do is make a null edit (just click "edit" and then "save page" without adding anything) and it should be removed. Regards, epicgenius (talk) 17:22, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Second Avenue Subway

I have added a lot more information about the 1970s plans and construction to that article. I think that the content should be arranged differently. Could you possible help with this? Thanks. After Phase 1 opens, we should try to get this to become a featured article.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:33, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the content could be arranged a little differently. I lumped the historic construction efforts into one section, current phases in another section, and the technical specs of the line (route, stations, designation) in a third section. It is an improvement over the original article layout four years ago, which was organized as follows:
  • "Background" (basically a summary, which has been expanded into the "Initial efforts" section)
  • "History" (now the "Initial efforts" section)
  • "Current development" (now the "Planning" portion of the current "2000s–present: Construction and development" section)
  • "Construction methods" (now a subsection of "2000s–present: Construction and development")
  • "Planned SAS route/stations and designation" (now the "Service" section)
  • "Construction status" (now part of the "2000s–present: Construction and development" section)
I organized it in the current format to combine the current-day construction effort sections. What are your suggestions for reorganization?
In addition, it will have a hard time becoming a featured article (although I want it to be a featured article). When two of the articles that I helped make into GA's—7 Subway Extension and One World Trade Center (twice)—were nominated for FA, they were rejected because they were still under construction or under development. The One WTC article won't become a FA anytime soon because the circumstances of the tower are constantly changing. So, I think we should wait a while before nominating this for FA. epicgenius (talk) 17:52, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
I just don't know how to organize the large section on the 1970s. I mentioned that the line would be quieter than other subway lines, for instance, but I don't know what information to group it with.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:25, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
The 1970s section can be split into planning and construction. I've split it. epicgenius (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 18:46, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Towns in New York City

See recent edits by Special:Contributions/170.28.136.41, which I've reverted. I left notes on the talk page about the absence of towns in New York City, but I'm not sure that they're being read. Alansohn (talk) 18:48, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@Alansohn: Thanks for the notice. I've left them a message on their talk page. I think they might have a point because locales in places like Jackson Heights, Queens are more often referred to as being in "Jackson Heights, NY" than in "Queens, NY". However, they are still incorrect because Queens does not have towns. epicgenius (talk) 18:59, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

New Q timetable out

I don't know how to update NYCS const to update the date for the Q timetable. [16] By the way, they made a stupid mistake. The SAS stations are not listed as accessible.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 02:32, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I fixed it. Also, I saw that error. Some NYCT Forums user jokingly suggested that maybe the elevators aren't done yet. If that was true, maybe we'd have these stations open three years ago... epicgenius (talk) 02:58, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
The subway maps have not yet been updated, yet you changed it to January 1.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 12:42, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
The MTA updated the paper maps in trains and stations to the January 1 version. That is the version I am referring to. epicgenius (talk) 13:22, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Need a major overhaul on rush hour W service along Fourth Avenue and Sea Beach

I can't figure out how to add the (W) to the Fourth Avenue and Sea Beach template on here. DO you know hoe to do it? AahdTahar (talk) 00:14, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I know. I actually added it to nine {{NYCS ...}} templates but I had to remove it because there was no consensus on adding the W to these pages. epicgenius (talk) 00:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Can you update this map?

Hi, epicgenius. The map for the Q train File:NYCS_map_Q.svg needs to be updated. When you have a chance, could you do this? Also, could you update the N train one. Thanks and some more stuff about SAS is available on the MTA website.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 19:22, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: You may have better luck if you ask Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps for this request. If not, I'll give it a try, but I have never edited one of these SVG maps before. epicgenius (talk) 20:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of LinkNYC

The article LinkNYC you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:LinkNYC for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Esquivalience -- Esquivalience (talk) 22:21, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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