User talk:Largoplazo

Thank you for participating

Just wanted to say thanks. Azeriking55 (talk) 21:19, 27 July 2020

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Largoplazo,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Largoplazo,

New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Largoplazo,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

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January 6 Capitol attack discussion

Hello. I noticed the list of events that you posted, which are known by their Month, Day, and related event here. I am sure this clinched the debate that editors were engaged in about this issue. It was certainly difficult to argue with this kind of evidence. I am curious as to how you were able to compile such a list. All the items on the list seem to be disparate and would be difficult for me to find. However, this list was right on point for this discussion. So, if you don't mind, how did you accomplish this? I'm thinking that this capability might come in handy for some other discussion in the future. Thanks in advance. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi there. I used the Special:PrefixIndex feature. Browse to Special:PrefixIndex/January and you'll see a list of all pages whose names begin with "January". The entries in italics are redirects; check the "Hide redirects" checkbox and hit the Show button to show actual articles only. Except for a few entries with punctuation marks after the "January" (disambiguation pages), all the articles where it's followed by numbers come first, so it wasn't too tedious to run through and pick the entries that consisted of month + day + the name of a one-time event. Then, of course, I just replaced "January" in the search field with each of the other months. Largoplazo (talk) 00:41, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Steve Quinn, I forgot to ping you so I don't know if you ever saw this. Largoplazo (talk) 22:52, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I saw this. I think this methodology is very useful. Again, thanks very much. It's good when editors do good work. Sorry I didn't respond earlier. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

"Shattered(film)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Shattered(film) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 4 § Shattered(film) until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 05:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Saransh

Excellent sir! You are a professional. I learnt a great deal examining your code. Anil1956 (talk) 13:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Anil1956 Its like if I touched the ground now. 2600:1005:B0B1:5F0E:0:E:50C8:7C01 (talk) 23:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

"Three (Blue Man Group album" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Three (Blue Man Group album has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 13 § Three (Blue Man Group album until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

André de Longjumeau

Just letting you know that when you warned a user for this edit, you seem to have forgotten to actually revert the edit. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 19:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Nope, I warned the user for their edit on Aleph. I left the warning two minutes before the timestamp on the edit you're referring to. Largoplazo (talk) 20:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Ahh - I must've misread it while leaving the warning for the André article. Sorry about that! Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 21:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Revisons to Primate City article

Hi! I believe that Gothenburg and Stockholm do not belong in the list of Primate Cities. Your argument against it was, as I understood it, that the concept is only applies to countries where the largest city in a country is a lot bigger in relative size to others.

But then, why Germany is on the list of countries without a primate city, despite Berlin being the biggest city with Hamburg in a comparable second place to that of Gothenburg? As is the case for Madrid and Warsaw.

What are your thoughts on above?

Inte en katt (talk) 07:24, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello there. I assumed that your edit summary was your full explanation for your removal of Stockholm. Yuur explanation was based on GDP and universities, which don't seem to be defining factors.

So now I've looked up their populations and I see that they aren't far out of line, that Stockholm doesn't dwarf Gothenburg. You ought to have mentioned that in your edit summary. So now I agree that Stockholm isn't a primate city. Largoplazo (talk) 12:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad we agree. Have a good day! Inte en katt (talk) 06:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Reverted of edit on East-Timor

"Yemen wasn't a Portuguese colony" that is true but it seems like at least one area in Yemen had been controlled by Portugal - Socotra and Aden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Aden_(1548) - find pdf of the source cited in the article here: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://psi424.cankaya.edu.tr/uploads/files/Shaw%2C%20History%20of%20the%20Ottoman%20Empire%20and%20Modern%20Turkey_%20Volume%201%2C%20Empire%20of%20the%20Gazis_%20The%20Rise%20and%20Decline%20of%20the%20Ottoman%20Empire%201280-1808%20%281976%29.pdf), maybe I should have wrote under parts under Portugese control(?) but the source cited on that point implies Yemen (or parts of it as a Portuguese Colony) feel free to read (chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA389067.pdf). So I think there should be an edit to that page, as from my understanding of the source, the immigration was not "natural" from Yemen to Timor but due to some Portugese influence, also the way it's written implies Yemen is in Africa or Gao of which it is neither? Maybe we should discuss this then make a change? Hanikb (talk) 11:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Edit: upon deeper reading into the first source and other sources on the subject Portugal seems to of only taken Socotra not Aden and for a total of 4 years. Also that shows a problem with the linked with article.

I acknowledge, having now reviewed what's written here, that Portugal had a presence in Yemen. But it also seems that they were there only briefly and were out of there long before they were in East Timor. The lead of East Timor says "East Timor came under Portuguese influence in the sixteenth century" but then the history section says they merely traded in Timor until the 17th century. I understand that Wikipedia doesn't tell the whole story, and maybe you're right, but it isn't clear from what I'm seeing here! Largoplazo (talk) 12:20, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Please help! New sockpuppet spotted

I don't know exactly how to proceed. But I'm very sure user Tromneck (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is a sockpuppet of a large list of socks, I don't remember the original name but Hordeolum (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was one of the banned socks.

How do I know this? This user is obsessed with editing religious statistics from countries all around the world (infoboxes) or the pages "Religion of XXXXX" themselves. And this user named "Tromneck" does exactly the same as Hordeolum (now permanently blocked) did before. Always editing sourced data with fake numbers or doing synth without inserting any new source.

I've also seen other permanently blocked accounts that did exactly the same edits and this belonged to a major "parent" first sockpuppet but I don't know the name. As you are an admin, can you please check this? Thank you. LucenseLugo (talk) 11:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@LucenseLugo: I'm not an admin! If you go to User:Hordeolum, you'll see that that account was found to be a sockpuppet of User:Rajputbhatti, making that account the "(sock)master". The sockpuppet investigation page for that user is at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Rajputbhatti.

See WP:Sockpuppet investigations for information about such investigations. The procedure for reporting a suspicion of sockpuppetry is in the collapsed section titled "How to open an investigation" just before the "Cases currently listed at SPI" section. Largoplazo (talk) 10:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Türkiye

@Largoplazo come to Istanbul, I miss u. Lionel Cristiano^? 14:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

@Lionel Cristiano: ??? Largoplazo (talk) 14:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Was it nice to visit Turkey? :-) Lionel Cristiano^? 14:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it was great. I was only in Istanbul. Archeology Museum, Topkapı Palace, Hagia Sophia, Grand Bazaar, Egyptian Bazaar, Galata Tower, the Basilica Cistern, Orhan Pamuk's Museum of Innocence, a restaurant with the odd name of Canım Ciğerim. The Blue Mosque was closed. This was a year and a half ago, I only now realized I'd never added it to my list. Largoplazo (talk) 15:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I am pleased to hear that. I wish you happiness in your world travel. Lionel Cristiano^? 20:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Largoplazo, I want to know about something Like I have website, and I want to add content from site to wikipedia. How could i give license to content of my site. So, that it can be added on wikipedia without problems Alenz07 (talk) 14:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello Largoplazo,

New Page Review queue January to March 2024

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Lisp ancestry of JavaScript

I presume the claim of Lisp ancestry comes from, to quote JavaScript:

During these formative years of the Web, web pages could only be static, lacking the capability for dynamic behavior after the page was loaded in the browser. There was a desire in the flourishing web development scene to remove this limitation, so in 1995, Netscape decided to add a programming language to Navigator. They pursued two routes to achieve this: collaborating with Sun Microsystems to embed the Java language, while also hiring Brendan Eich to embed the Scheme language.

The goal was a "language for the masses", "to help nonprogrammers create dynamic, interactive Web sites". Netscape management soon decided that the best option was for Eich to devise a new language, with syntax similar to Java and less like Scheme or other extant scripting languages. Although the new language and its interpreter implementation were called LiveScript when first shipped as part of a Navigator beta in September 1995, the name was changed to JavaScript for the official release in December.

with a derivation from Lisp through Scheme. Netscape management rejected Lisp syntax, but there may have been some structural ideas from Scheme. Guy Harris (talk) 23:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

References

Please read MOS:PBUH to the end before making changes based on it

Please note that the sentence whose beginning you quoted in restoring religiously biased phrasing to the article on Oman ends by not allowing "the prophet Muhammad" even in the first reference, only "the Islamic prophet Muhammad." Thanks, UrielAcosta (talk) 22:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)