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Speedy deletion nomination of Drei Marc

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Local Nature Reserve

Mauls, you might have looked at the talk page — or at least at the history, where my move in September was just three lines down — before unilaterally moving Local Nature Reserve back to the lower-case version. There's discussion there. Please take part. Meanwhile, I've reverted your move. Bishonen | talk 11:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC).

Strongly agree. The capitals are significant, they indicate a significance that goes beyond the meaning of the individual words, and should not have been removed. There's a difference between a "local nature reserve" and a "Local Nature Reserve". My local nature reserve is Kinder Scout – but Kinder Scout is a National Nature Reserve. This modern obsession with minimizing capital letters is a nonsense (I disagreed with WP:BIRDCON too – not all common gulls are Common Gulls) and we lose a shade of meaning – and gain nothing in return – by this weird obsession with removing capitals. Dave.Dunford (talk) 13:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

So I see you've ignored my suggestion at Talk:Local nature reserve and you're continuing to make these contentious edits before consensus has been established. Nice. Dave.Dunford (talk) 20:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Strongly agree with comments above. Mauls must not make these edits, unless consensus is established for their changes. I have reverted their edit to Stokenchurch Gap for the same reason. David J Johnson (talk) 13:26, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

National Character Areas and Natural Areas of England

Hi Mauls. I'm sure you changed these titles to lower case in good faith, but I think you'll find that they're officially spelt in title case by Natural England (who designate them) even in the middle of a sentence. See [1] and [2]. Would you be kind enough to revert the changes. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely agree with Bermicourt's comments above and the comments in the previous paragraph. I have reverted Mauls edits to Stokenchurch Gap, pending consensus. David J Johnson (talk) 13:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Links to the articles under discussion are being left whilst being debated, pending consensus, but the revert was in relation to a completely different article, national nature reserve (United Kingdom), and a correction of a link to the generic national nature reserve. There is no open discussion of the capitalisation of this article. There were also copyedit changes that were improperly reverted. Check before snap reverting! Mauls (talk) 10:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I did check and the article states "National Nature Reserve (United Kingdom). Please stop lecturing and discuss. David J Johnson (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

There is no discussion on the talk page for national nature reserve (United Kingdom). The previous comments related to three entirely different articles; if you want to start a discussion relating to the national nature reserve article, you are welcome to do so.

I also don't understand your claim to have checked what you were reverting - why did you point the link back to national nature reserve, the generic article rather than the UK designation? Also, why did you capitalise 'public enquiry', and why did you revert a correction of a missing apostrophe on 'inspector's decision'? You can see what you changed at [3]

Mauls (talk) 13:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I realise they are different articles. My concern in all articles concerned is that you seem to be obsessed with reverting titles to lower case without sufficient explanation. I really feel you should be answering the various editors concerns listed in the above paragraphs. Please don't lecture me about "starting a discussion", I have plenty of experience of editing here. Regarding "public enquiry" it can be used either way - which once again - shows your obsession with reverting to lower case. Frankly, I have more important things to do both in business and Wikipedia - but you need to answer the other contributors points. David J Johnson (talk) 16:15, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I have already contributed multiple times to the ongoing discussion. Mauls (talk) 11:01, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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York, pre-Grouping

Hi, whilst this revert was valid, your reasoning is not: the NER owned the station and the neighbouring lines, but several other companies ran services into York by virtue of running powers: the Great Central; the Great Eastern; the Great Northern; the Lancashire & Yorkshire; the London & North Western; and the Midland. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:11, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Agence nationale de la sécurité des systèmes d'information

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Battenburg markings

I saw you are the author of

( File:Battenburg-police.svg and also the other Battenburg markings). unfortunedly as Battenburg markings go: "A typical car pattern consists of seven blocks along the vehicle side. (Additionally, an odd number of blocks allows for both top corner blocks to be in the same fluorescent colour)" (emphasis added)

Unfortunedly the markings you created are 6 x 2 blocks, could you replace them by 7x2 blocks? (I think the odd number is important here)

Thanks in advance.WillemienH (talk) 19:17, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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Salt Industry Commission should be moved back to Salt Commission

Hi Mauls;

Thanks for looking out for the articles on salt, which I see from your contributions are quite wide ranging. But "Salt Industry Commission" is not the right title for the article, since the subject is actually "Salt Commission." All the sources cited for the article (and a few more) call it Salt Commission or Salt and Iron Commission, and a Google search for Salt Industry Commission finds only the Wikipedia article and a few that are copied from it (it is amazing, though, how quickly those articles picked up your change!). I hope you can change it and the corresponding link back. All the best. ch (talk) 04:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks for carrying this out!ch (talk) 05:17, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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@BU Rob13: I was out fishing on the Good_Olfactory Pond but after seeing your comment about lack of response (after waiting only 36 hours) I decided to head over to BU_Rob13 Pond. We are all volunteers, some busier than others. Am I making sense or wasting everyone's time ?Ottawahitech (talk) 17:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me

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@Tavix: I looked up the "discussion" you refer to above. I am dismayed to see that no one suggested a different redirect (there are several plausible ones such as British colonization of the Americas and others). Ottawahitech (talk) 17:05, 19 December 2016 (UTC)please ping me

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Hi; about 80% of online sources, and about 90% of printed sources capitalize all the initial letters of Rail operating centre, this is why I capitalized it. I understand where you are coming from, but when a large majority use capitals, I assumed that would be the way. The article itself was uploaded through the AFC process and they did not query it. I'm not getting protective, if it needs to be lowercase, that's fine; however, the sources seem inclined towards capitalization (and I include the more reliable sources here such as The Railway Magazine and Network Rail who coined the phrase). Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

How it is written in sources is not relevant. Wikipedia's Manual of Style dictates that it should be in lowercase, unless a proper name (a name of a specific thing). Rail operating centres are a type of thing, and are therefore correctly written in lowercase. Only a specific ROC would be capitalised, such as Manchester Rail Operating Centre. Mauls (talk) 14:01, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough; as least you have responded - most people just ignore me. Happy days and I hope the weather is good wherever you are. Regards.The joy of all things (talk) 14:05, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

You too. For reference, Manual of Style is available at WP:MOS. Mauls (talk) 14:07, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

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District Collector

@Mauls: I see you've changed the contents of the article District collector to accommodate almost analogous Bangladeshi post.

• However, no references have been cited about either the Bangladeshi counterpart or the BCS.
• Also, in Bangladesh DMs/Collectors/DCs are referred to as Deputy Commissioner, so, wouldn't it be nicer to have a new article named Deputy Commissioner (Bangladesh)? Especially, because Deputy Commissioner (India) already redirects to District collector.
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@SshibumXZ: That is one way forward, if there was sufficient content, but then District collector would need to become a disambiguation page, and the article moved to District collector (India). It can also be pointed out that the posts are very similar, with a joint history, and therefore the bulk of the two articles would be the same. Whilst this article retains a broad title, it cannot exclude the Bangladeshi content that was improperly reverted.Mauls (talk) 08:32, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mauls: DMs/Collectors/DCs in India may perform the same functions as DCs in Bangladesh (with a few differences here and there), but the nomenclature is different.

• Yes, the posts share a common history, but, in my opinion, that doesn't say much. It's like saying Governor-General of India and Governor-General of Pakistan should be merged because their history is derived from Governor-General of British India.
• There need not be a District Collector (India) page for two more reasons, viz-

1. If I recall correctly, WP: MoS encourages natural usage of title wherever possible.
2. The page District Collector is already linked to numerous articles, and relinking it would be not worth the exercise.

If anything, there should be a Deputy Commissioner (Disambiguation). As Deputy Commissioner in Bangladesh exercises the roles of DM and Collector, but is designated as Deputy Commissioner. So, the plausible search term would be Deputy Commissioner, not District Collector.
Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 14:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

@SshibumXZ: You now seem unclear whether you feel the Bagladeshi content should be split or not - you have mixed arguments for both. If the articles aren't split, it is not acceptable to just revert content because it is not about India. You are claiming the equivalent of saying an article titled Governor-General is only allowed content about the Governor-General of India, and that is not what WP:MoS says at all! The content should not have been reverted when it was originally added, and it is entirely appropriate in order to provide a full-worldview in an article about the general term.

Also, the appropriate place for this is in the relevant section of the article talk page, where user Jafar Sadik Chy asked for discussion of this content. Mauls (talk) 20:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mauls: yep, I have mixed feelings about the addition of content. On one hand the article should have a worldwide perspective whilst it retains a broad title, but on the other hand the content added is unreferenced, so should be removed.

What I would suggest is to move District collector to District Collector (India) with a redirect, just like Home Secretary (United Kingdom) redirects to Home Secretary, and to create new page titled either District collector (disambiguation or Deputy commissioner (disambiguation).
And if it's all the same to you, I am thinking about copying this discussion to Talk: District collector.
Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 14:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@SshibumXZ: That would be a better place - so that it is a broader discussion, and so that the eventual outcome is captured for future reference (so it doesn't get replayed later). If the Banglasdeshi content was removed for other reasons, that would be fair enough, but I unreverted it because the reversion was commented "This article is about India", and there was no discussion (despite a topic being started by the author). If it needs citations, this should first be tagged and a discussion held. Mauls (talk) 15:05, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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the EU Directive deals with rules of how firearms may be legally possessed. I.e. those are rules for law abiding citizens, as opposed to measures that may affect criminals and black market firearms. Is that understandable? Cheers, CP Cimmerian praetor (talk) 20:27, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

@Cimmerian praetor: I disagree - that is now the meaning from the way it has been used. It is used to suggest "poor innocent law-abiding people having to follow these rules." Even if it did read how you claim, other pages on laws do not feel the need to point out the obvious - that laws are not always followed by some people. Either way, it is an inappropriate editorial comment and should not be in a Wikipedia article. See article talk page. Mauls (talk) 20:47, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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The man is now remembered for his brand of car, I believe some of that name are still on the roads. So I think this is a case of ignore all rules. What do you think - knowing that? Eddaido (talk) 00:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

I think I used that option first, and you reverted it..? Mauls (talk) 00:14, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

(moved from my talk page) I’m very unclear what you are objecting to.

The phrase “the chairman was - the Earl of Shrewsbury and Talbot” does not make sense. Talbot was the Earl of Shrewsbury.

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The last one made the most sense to me, given it was about the car company with his name. But you reverted that for reasons I don’t understand. Therefore I have now changed it to the second option.

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I speak throughout of Talbot Except where I quote from a news item. Please go back and see how it was. I have to go out urgently. Eddaido (talk) 00:23, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

The text edited was not in quotation marks, and said “Earl of Shrewsbury”. Your comments here do not match your reversion. Please explain why you object to the words “Earl of Shrewsbury” being removed when it already said “Talbot”. As it was, it made no sense as a piece of English and was grammatically incorrect. Mauls (talk) 00:29, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

(to avoid further confusion by both parties) I cannot claim responsibility for every word since my recasting of the entire article. I'm content with the particular paragraph as I have just now amended it. If you find the limpidity of my prose unsatisfactory please fix it and then we can recommence discussion. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 02:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

You have now re-edited it to something almost identical to my edit you reverted. You seem to be objecting to anyone else editing this article - that is wholly inappropriate. What was wrong with me changing it to Talbot but not for you to do so? Mauls (talk) 08:17, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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See MOS:CAPS, in particular under 'Job titles' which gives an example of a king. So royal titles are not capitalised unless a specific name (so Queen Elizabeth), but not "a Queen" (although "the Queen" be a specific individual's name, but is probably best avoided for clarity by using the full name - c.f. Parliament of the United Kingdom / Parliament / a parliament). There is nothing to deviate from the standard rule (at the top of the page) that "capitalization is primarily needed for proper names, acronyms, and for the first letter of a sentence." included in the MOS to say that 'royal' things other - no "Royal proclamation", "Royal prerogative" and so forth - see proclamation and royal prerogative as examples. (It is also not a common style in written English to capitalise 'Royal' in that way - check other manuals of style). Mauls (talk) 18:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the full stop but haven't you rather destroyed things with your next edit? Mind if I revert you? Eddaido (talk) 10:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

OK, I'll revert, shortly, unless you plan to fix it? "Share types are not especially capitalised; company names should normally exclude "Limited" etc. unless referring very explicitly to the corporate structure)" Eddaido (talk) 21:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

If you are referring to Nuffield, I don’t agree that anything requires fixing. My edits brought removed issues that were against the Wikipedia Manual of Style.

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Moving government auctions to singular

Why is government auction moved back to government auctions?--Geysirhead (talk) 14:04, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Well it wasn't me that moved it, but it looks like your edit was reverted because do did a cut-and-paste, not a proper move. Mauls (talk) 10:36, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane

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I also wanted to talk to you about another aspect related to the changes made. Since January 2018, Anas has actually been fully controlled by FS Italiane, as shown both on the respective websites of the two companies (here and here) and by the following third-party sources:

• https://www.ansa.it/english/news/politics/2017/04/14/anas-fs-merger-boosts-investments-delrio-2_c3879de2-aefc-47b4-9f43-5fc080464d9c.html
• https://www.repubblica.it/economia/2018/01/18/news/fs-anas_via_libera_dell_antitrust_e_firmata_la_fusione-186761513/

At this point, the paragraph concerning the company that was present in the Subsidiaries section should therefore be reinstated or, alternatively, we should find the best way to relocate the information within the article. I rely on your judgement...let me know ;)

Thank you again for your work to improve the article :) Claudia Frattini (talk) 10:08, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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No worries. I know how difficult editing on a phone can be! Mauls (talk) 20:48, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup! Muchisimas gracias! 非常感谢 شكرا جزيلا Left Central (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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I understand that the Bill of Rights is technically dated to 1688 (due to backdating, and the fact that beginning of the legal year was still 25 March) but we should be consistent and comply with WP:SURPRISE. The link goes to the main page Bill of Rights 1689 , and readers not familiar with English dating oddities are going to think that one of the dates is wrong. Wikipedia seems to have settled on 1689 as the most common usage (a note to the article actually says that), and across the encyclopedia we have ten times more occurrences of "Bill of Rights 1689" than of "Bill of Rights 1688". Happy to discuss further on on talk page if you feel the need. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:04, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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I notice that you have recently tried to expand the lists of Acts of Parliament.

The templates you are using were designed for Twentieth Century Acts. Those templates are presently useless for pre-1896 Acts. Most pre-1896 Acts do not have short titles. (Some of those Acts have a popular title. Some of those Acts only have a long title.) Accordingly, you cannot use a template that says "short title" for Acts that do not have a short title. You should either modify the template so that it does not say "short title", or you should stop using the template. (Changing the heading "short title" to "short title or popular title or subject matter" or to "short title or other name or subject matter" or to "name or subject matter" might solve this problem).

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You have inserted unreferenced claims to the effect that all pre-1793 Acts received royal assent at the start of the session. While such Acts did come into force retroactively with effect from the start of the session, that does not mean that they necessarily received royal assent on that date. Since the date of royal assent is not endorsed on pre-1793 Acts, please do not insert unreferenced claims about the date of royal assent of pre-1793 Acts.

You are rapidly making these lists WP:TOOBIG. Shorter lists, including, in at least some cases, annual or session lists, are needed, but they need to be created one at a time with accurate and completely referenced content. (I am going to try to WP:SPLIT these lists soon.)

Many of the names currently given in the lists are unverifiable neologisms coined by Wikipedians. All the unreferenced names in the pre-1896 lists need to actually be verified with at least one reliable source. It is important that unreferenced material is not added to the lists before this is done (because it would make the problem of unreferenced material worse). James500 (talk) 15:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to amend the template if you have suggestions as to better table headings; but I disagree that the template is 'useless': it allows for the lists of acts to be made into better, sortable lists and the long titles and dates of royal assent to be added.

The date of the start of session is clearly labelled as such as a substitute for the date of royal assent where it hasn't yet been found. It is clearly labelled with a footnote to to avoid it being mistaken for the date of royal assent.

I have split some of the pages - they already suffer from TOOBIG - but again, it is work in progress. Feel free to do some splitting yourself.

Finally, I didn't add the existing short names in the lists, I am merely adding them into a template that allows more details to be added.

Mauls (talk) 20:01, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

The template is useless in its present form because it violates WP:V and WP:NOR to describe a popular title (or the made-up fake names in some of the entries in the lists) as a short title. (We can verify with law books that short titles are created by statute to facilitate the citation of Acts in legal documents, whereas popular titles are not). It does not matter what features the template has if it violates our core policies.

The template is so complicated that I do not have the faintest idea how to change the template. That is part of the problem with the template. If you are the one adding a template to a page, it is your responsibility to make sure that it works properly.

The date of the start of session is not clearly labelled as a substitute for the date of royal assent where it hasn't yet been found. The only labels are "royal assent" and "start of session". Anyone reading those pages would think that you were saying that the all Acts passed in the session in question received royal assent on the first day of that session.

I would be grateful if you don't split the lists without either fixing or removing the templates first. James500 (talk) 21:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

I fixed the issues you cited with the template, yet I notice you did mass reversions of my edits anyway, including removing fully cited content, and content I had merely reformated. I have undo these. I would be grateful if you would not do further undiscussed reversions. Mauls (talk) 16:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

In relation to the issues that weren't directly with the template, but were with content, I'm removing the 'repealed' flags that make the boxes red, except where the repealing legislation is cited. This will take me a while to complete. I've also completed an initial round of article splitting, to address your complaint of TOOBIG. Mauls (talk) 19:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced claims

You have added large numbers of unreferenced claims that Acts of Parliament have been repealed. WP:V requires that these claims be supported by inline citations. Please do not add any further uncited claims of repeals. Please either add inline citations to support the claims of repeals, or remove the claims.

Further, you are splitting pages with the unreferenced claims included. This makes it impossible to revert the pages to a "clean" version without the uncited material. Please stop doing that. Take the unreferenced material out before you split the page, not after. The lists for the 1840s to the 1870s still contain massive numbers of these unreferenced claims, which you restored today in violation of WP:V and still have not dealt with, and which I cannot deal with because you have split the page. On this point, I refer you to WP: BRD and WP:STATUSQUO. James500 (talk) 01:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

As explained above, I have undertaken to remove the currently uncited repeal flags, but it takes a little while to to. Mauls (talk) 16:06, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

On the point of WP:STATUSQUO, you may want to read that. You went against it by starting a discussion with me, and then mass reverting pages (without discussion) to a point other than the start of the discussion. It is quite clear in WP:STATUSQUO that tagging and discussion are the route, not the behaviour you exhibited. You'll also note that WP:BRD refers to WP:ROWN - revert only when necessary – which this clearly wasn't. I'm had demonstrated I was happy to work through issues. Mauls (talk) 16:16, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Please stop adding false claims

In the private Acts section of list for 1879, you inserted a large number of verifiably and demonstrably factually inaccurate claims:

(1) You inserted false chapter numbers that were not the real chapter numbers of the Acts.

(2)You inserted false dates that were neither the date of royal assent or the start of the session.

(3) You inserted false claims that chapters 5 and 7 were unrepealed in the Republic of Ireland. (They were repealed by the Statute Law Revision Act 2012).

Please do not insert any further false claims into articles. These unverifiable claims are a violation of WP:V.

When I tried to add the correct dates of royal assent, your templates completely stopped working and refused to accept the correct dates. (The template claimed that there was a "Lua error in mw.lua at line 143", whatever that means). Please fix your template so that it does not do that. James500 (talk) 04:33, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

If you let me know what the issues are with the dates of royal assent - which acts and what they need changing to (and any source to cite) then I will try making the changes and see if I get any errors. Mauls (talk) 16:07, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Land tax act, 1698

I'm sure you are right in your correction at Land Tax (England) but the volume of Ruffhead listed in the citations runs out at 9 & 10 Will. III c.45. Have you located Volume 4 online? (because on past experience it will take hours to find it).

Not a priority, I'm just intrigued by the difference. How did it arise? How do we know which is correct? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:05, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

There's a copy of the relevant volume here: https://archive.org/details/statutesatlarge31britgoog/page/n17/mode/2up (that page is the index list of 10 & 11 Will 3. Chronlogical Table of the Statutes also shows the mapping between the two sets of citations. In any event, it was still wrong, as it is c. 9 in both series, not c. 10. So I've fixed that now too. Mauls (talk) 22:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom from 2023

DO NOT Move Article to List of acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom from 2023 again the current title List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom from 2023 matches all other articles on the subject (which is the template used for the Article) your move has being reversed if you move it again it will be reversed again, i created the article from the 2022 article and it matched the title of that article so leave it. Demonguy1990 (talk) 06:22, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

It was moved following discussion on the talk page. All the articles are being gradually moved to the correct capitalisation. Mauls (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Old Poor Law

Re this - is there actually an official short title? I can't say I've seen it called the title you've moved it to. DuncanHill (talk) 12:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

It literally has a citation in the article... Short Titles Act 1896. Mauls (talk) 12:42, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 12:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Links

You really do not need to keep changing links as you have done here and in so many other edits. In fact it is discouraged. See WP:NOTBROKEN. DuncanHill (talk) 23:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

It's not a WP:NOTBROKEN.. I'm changing the display text. Mauls (talk) 23:16, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

But why do it? What's the point? You fill up watchlists with pointless edits that do not improve anything. DuncanHill (talk) 23:23, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't consider my edits pointless. Mauls (talk) 23:26, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you also use edit summaries on all your edits? I can't read your mind to understand what you're doing, otherwise. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:48, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

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UK statutory instruments always start with the definite article

Hi, this afternoon you moved a large number of UK statutory instrument articles to new locations, to eliminate the definite article. So, for example, you moved The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 to Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020. Before making such a large number of changes without notice, it would have been better had you raised the point for discussion. All of those articles correctly start with the definite article per WP:DEFINITE and WP:THE as "The" is part of a proper name, and is an essential part of the official name of the statutory instrument itself. All modern statutory instruments start with the word "The" - see for example List of statutory instruments of the United Kingdom, 2020. You would have been correct in respect of primary legislation, which typically do not include "The", but not for statutory instruments, which do. Would you be good enough to self-revert please. Many thanks, MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

The names do not include "The" as part of the proper name. See for example, https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regulation/1/made, where it states "These Regulations may be cited as the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 and come into force at 1:00 p.m. on 26th March 2020." (note lower-case 'the'). This is identical to modern primary legislation, for example https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/218 ("This Act may be cited as the Equality Act 2010."). As per WP:DEFINITE, the article titles were wrong, and the moves were correct. Mauls (talk) 17:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

That tells you how the SI "may be cited"; it doesn't define the title. The full title is set out at the very top of the instrument on the first page of the Queen/King's Printers version available as a pdf under the 'More resources' menu item of the page you've linked to. This is different from virtually any primary legislation eg Equality Act 2010 where the official title does not include "The". You haven't addressed that. WP:DEFINITE and WP:THE are clear that "The" should be retained when part of the proper name, as here. All of those articles were very carefully named, correctly, from the start. MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Those clauses in the SIs and Acts literally define the titles. The moves were correct, and the original names were incorrect. Mauls (talk) 18:03, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Those clauses in the SIs and Acts literally define the title. What is your legal basis for saying that? Citation needed please. MichaelMaggs (talk) MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

See, for example, https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/2317/schedule/8/made "The title to the Public Service Vehicles Accessibility (Amendment) Regulations 2009 made on 2nd April 2009, and registered with serial number 876, becomes the "Public Service Vehicles Accessibility (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2009". No definitive article, and amends the citation clause. The Queen's Printer's title is just their stylistic rendering. If you want to claim otherwise, then provide your citation. Mauls (talk) 18:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

OK, that example does support your case. If I had the time I'd research your "just their stylistic rendering" comment, but to be honest it's not worth the effort for a minor Wikipedia convention. MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Act of Common Council 1667 (sic?)

Hi Mauls, I thought you might be able to advise on this? I've been working on the Robert Hooke article to get it up to GA standard. Historian Lisa Jardine refers to an Act of Common Council of April 1667, which I can't find in the List of acts of the Parliament of England for that year. But I have an impression that the Court of Common Council of London was a form of devolved government, so maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? or maybe it is an "act", not an "Act"? For the moment, I've WP:EGGed it a bit as [[Court of Common Council|Act of Common Council]]  :

Hooke was closely involved with drafting an Act of Common Council (April 1667), which set out the process by which the original foundations would be formally recognised and certificated. Historian Lisa Jardine writes "in the four weeks from the 4th of October, Hooke helped map the fire-damaged area, began compiling a Land Information System for London, and drew up building regulations for an Act of Parliament to govern the rebuilding".

so that bothers me a little. In the overall scheme of things, it is trivial issue but it provokes my curiosity. Any suggestions? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:39, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

You are correct on the second part - acts of Common Council were the devolved legislation of the City of London. They weren't acts of Parliament. Mauls (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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