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Happy New Year, The Transhumanist![edit]

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Moops T 20:32, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cup of Tea[edit]

I am going to try and add the floating "cup of tea" that you have to my talk page. It is awesome. TY Moops T 20:33, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Added it, and it looks great. I hope you don't mind that I took this from you. I really like it. :) Moops T 20:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moops: Of course I don't mind. I'm glad you like it. By the way, you might also find the WP:UPDC interesting, if not useful.    — The Transhumanist   07:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at your talk page, and adopted your crooked Table of Contents.    — The Transhumanist   08:14, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Portals[edit]

Hey, TT. I added a Portal and a user with 800,000 edits deleted it along with deleting some whitespace. Is this cool? (I used to be Checkingfax). See: Special:MobileDiff/1132289216 - Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 05:40, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiWikiWayne: There's an inline link to the portal, so, it looks like the situation worked out.    — The Transhumanist   02:23, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added it back. Wondering why they deleted it previously, plus the whitespace. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 09:23, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, The Transhumanist. I always thought that per MOS:LAYOUT that Portals went in the See also section, if the article contains a See also section. I recently put some Portals in an article, in See also, and somebody moved them to the very bottom of the References section. Now I see there is not much Portal placement guidance in MOS:LAYOUT. I wonder why? Are you still interested in Portals? Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 19:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiWikiWayne: Hey, how's it goin'? Links to portals do go into the see also section. See: Wikipedia:Portal#How to add portal links to articles

In answer to your question, I'm not too into portals these days. I haven't been very involved in Wikipedia development over the past few years, though I use it each day. I occasionally switch to editor mode to fix a typo, or grammar, here or there, and less frequently do some real editing. I also respond to requests or notices to rescue pages in danger of deletion, and am involved with a rescue effort now. Currently, I'm also involved with a discussion of the potential impact of large language models, and the AI chatbots powered by them, like Chat-GPT, on Wikipedia, and how Wikipedia should respond via policy and action. 07:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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ChatGPT and other LLMs[edit]

Kudos on the initiative and determination on WP:VPP#Wikipedia response to chatbot-generated content. I've pinged Jimbo to the discussion, since it goes well beyond en.Wiki, both to the question of relevance of some human-generated content (eg. Wikis), as well as the technical capabilities of MW. François Robere (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@François Robere: Nice! By the way, I've been monitoring related news, and I'm continuously blown away. See why in my latest addition to the discussion:
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Use of "preview" (and your talk page)[edit]

Firstly, I had problems even getting a message to you because in the latest "Vector" skin there is no "edit" button on your talk page. I had to revert the recent change just to post this message. Why not prioritise usability over prettiness and get rid of whatever silly formatting you have?

The reason I came here in the first place is to urge you to use the "show preview" button rather than save uncompleted versions of your edits. Your edits flood watchlists and give people edit conflicts when they try to edit discussions such as Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Crystallize chatbot discussions into a policy?. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do use preview, and save when I believe it is done. I have the compulsion to reread the post again after it is completed and saved. And if I find something wrong with it, I fix it. Then the cycle repeats itself. Sorry. I guess I can mark the revisit edits as minor. As for the formatting of this page, I was unaware of the edit button problem, as I use the old vector skin. It sounds like the new skin has ruined my formatting. I'll look into it. Thank you for the heads up.    — The Transhumanist   08:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
P.S.: You can also use the API or shortcut keys to activate edit.    — The Transhumanist   08:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Precious anniversary[edit]

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"dabble in JavaScript"[edit]

Citoid and refill need fixing

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FYI[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Outlines#Deprecation of outlines. Moxy- 23:28, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for September 26[edit]

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 Fixed Changed to [[outline (list)|outline]]    — The Transhumanist   06:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Outline of reptiles moved to draftspace[edit]

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A first...[edit]

Hi Transhumanist. Well, it's official! Outline of lichens is the first outline to receive its FL star, as of today. :) Thanks for all your help and encouragement! MeegsC (talk) 23:28, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MeegsC: Congratulations. Job well done. What's next? What do you have planned next in the outline department?    — The Transhumanist   23:53, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mainspacing the draft outlines[edit]

Hi, I like outlines. Did you request those draft outlines to be restored so you could work on them to move them to mainspace? —Alalch E. 19:59, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Alalch E.: Those that can be, yes. Once an outline is ready for prime time, it can be moved into article space. That'll take more development for some than others. One that looks particularly close to being ready is Draft:Outline of George Washington.    — The Transhumanist   22:01, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. I began doing some work on Draft:Outline of American football. —Alalch E. 22:04, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Outline Barnstar
Hello The Transhumanist, you are receiving this award for the creation and continued dedication to WikiProject Outlines. You deserve this barnstar more than anyone. Jerium (talk) 19:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jerium: Thank you. By the way, if you think of ways to improve outlines or the outline project, please let me know. Thanks again. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   00:01, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm quite new to editing, but you should be able just to release this image (while still giving credit to the references) because you made it as seen with the blue barnstar you used as a source. Daryl76679 (talk) 22:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - Thank you for the heads up.    — The Transhumanist   00:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Was this really necessary? Jerium (talk) 22:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jerium: That's like asking, "Were the barnstars you've created necessary?" Which leads to "Is art necessary?" Yes. Very much so. And in art, details matter. It's your new design (adjusted slightly by color), and is symbolically much more representative of outlines, due to its tree structure icon. Well done. And you've anchored that symbol nicely to the WikiProject by displaying it prominently on its main page. That was brilliant. Now, by default, in a sense, all instances of its smaller version (in the awards) point back to it. Bravo!    — The Transhumanist   23:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Transhumanist Okay, when you removed the alt that I had made at your request, I was not upset. In fact, based on the discussion on my talk page, I was not surprised as you were clearly thrilled with a barnstar being introduced; But now that we've ended up to this point, your biggest mistake occurred, confusing my patients for kindness. I and members of WP:WPWPA do not oust pre-existing barnstars, we only remaster barnstars that do not use File:Original Barnstar Hires.png per WP:B2G and add them into the barnstar template as the secondary alternative option while the original still remains in the template as the primary option. That is a gesture of honorable-courtesy, to acknowledge their efforts, original makers, in creating the original barnstars. The thing that no one ever does though, even if you are not a member of WP:WPWPA, is replace the barnstar file-images in barnstar templates that were already-rewarded to editors for whatever reason. That is just a low-ball move, near equivalent to blanking a page. Everything you've done in the template, I am undoing, but I will fullfill your request; and as one who is as good as Antonu (Yes, I am making that comparison), you don't know what a high-quality barnstar is, and you especially don't know how to properly award other editors. Jerium (talk) 00:36, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jerium: First, let me say thank you for updating the alt image on the barnstar page. That looks even better than the one I hobbled together from your previous design. Very nice.

As for the awarding process itself, my opinion is that it's between the giver and the recipient. It's not like it's a physical award sitting on their mantle. This, being a wiki, provides more options. If a rewarder sees a way to improve an award they've given, especially one they customized themselves, the edit button is just a click away. Likewise, if a recipient prefers the earlier version, they are welcome to revert. And if they don't, then perhaps that's an indication that they at least didn't mind the modification. Note, that I changed the look of the award, not the message content. Though, I wouldn't hesitate to fix a typo, or awkward wording, in the text of an award I've given.

Regarding the other barnstar, let me ask some philosophical questions: What do lightbulbs have to do with outlines? Are you saying that we're stuck with a lightbulb representing outlines as a main award on the barnstar page forever? How did that happen? What's the procedure for getting it changed to something more relevant? No hard feelings here. Just scratching my head, wondering what can be done about it. No lightbulbs are going off, though. Except, maybe this one: Could you be talked into changing it to something that captures the essence of outlines? That way, you would still be the credited artiste, and I know you could come up with something mind blowing. You remind me of Penubag in that regard. (He created the medal for the World Developer Award).

Last, but not least, is that we can always talk things over, and I'm glad you feel free to express your feelings. I look forward to our continued sharing of thoughts and ideas.    — The Transhumanist   00:58, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The lightbulb stays as it was the original upload. The new version also stays, so no one is taking a loss. It would be very difficult to get consensus to remove the newly updated barnstar, with the amount of effort I put in on quality, but I don't want to continue this discussion any further. Also, you're rude and insulting. We're done. Jerium (talk) 01:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you are on my talk page, and you did add the "rude" comment after you wrote that you didn't want to continue, thus continuing. So, I'm going to take those as cues to respond...

Then the light bulb stays. You met me half-way, which is willingness to compromise, and for that, I am grateful. And so, I guess I can do the same.

It seems a bit quirky, but, we can adapt to the light bulb barnstar. I imagine the award's prose could go something like this:

"I hereby award you this light bulb of excellence for creating such a wonderful outline and illuminating the world with its knowledge." Or maybe "Here is a light bulb to brighten your day, for creating such an illuminating outline." And this one: "You have illuminated minds like Edison illuminated the world. For this, you are awarded the outline light bulb!"

Those work for me. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Thanks for the barnstar award designs. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking for sources[edit]

Hi Transhumanist, I would like to take you up on your offer and ask you if you could find a few independent reliable sources sufficient to establish notability of the organisation "Diving Equipment and Marketing Association", When I tried perplexity it threw back Wikipedia, even after I told it not to. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 09:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pbsouthwood: I ran into the same problem awhile back. Since it is a chatbot, which you can ask to do just about anything literary (so far, they haven't incorporated a robotic training data set into it, so it can't comply with requests to do physical things, yet), I asked it how to get it to return results without Wikipedia in them, and it instructed me to use "-site:en.wikipedia.org" in my prompts. I tried that, and it worked. I don't know if that is an ability that it adopted, or something they programmed into it.

Keep in mind that the chatbot's data lake is the Web, and there is a growing body of know how on how to use ChatGPT (which is essentially what drives this thing). So, as time goes on, perplexity.ai becomes more and more of an expert on how to use itself. As users, we can ask it to tap into that. It's counterintuitive, but, sometimes it works wonders.

I looked around for sources to establish notability for DEMA, and neither I nor perplexity could turn up anything of note. There is mention of DEMA commissioning a research study in Introductory Guide to Scuba Diver Species from University of Massachusetts Amherst, but I doubt that's enough to establish notability. (There's another source in there on DEMA—Buttner, C. (2007). DEMA and the public shouldn't mix. Published in Open Water Articles— but there's no copy of it online that I could find. It appears that DEMA's online footprint is primarily its own website.    — The Transhumanist   01:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks TTH, I was aware of the Amherst paper, and agree – not enough. It is quite weird considering DEMA has had quite a large influence on recreational diving over several decades, and not always a good one. So it goes. The tip about "-site" is useful, and makes sense to a degree (that it works, not that it is explicitly needed), Anyway, thanks for trying, Wikipedia will just have to go without an article for now. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 04:24, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbsouthwood: It looks like they've combined an AI back end with a conventional search engine front end. You're welcome.    — The Transhumanist   10:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Merry Christmas![edit]

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23[edit]

15 years later[edit]

Almost 15 years later, now looks like indeed there are :)

Thanks for all the work you do on outlines, I think they're an awesome resource!

Regards -- Gor1995 𝄞 11:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New message to The Transhumanist[edit]

Hey, I've been trying to pare down unhelpful short descriptions onsite, and I've definitely unset a lot of outlines. Apologies for this, I will stop doing so, and start putting the ones back that I removed. Also, I really appreciate your work at the WikiProject, and I've actually started Draft:Outline of Chinese characters as a result. Cheers! Remsense 05:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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