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This image has been superseded by an SVG image with more data, actually labeled, and this image has not been used for two years Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This image is not exactly equal to the svg version and a request for improvement at the graphics lab is current. Deletion is premature. Rmhermen (talk)
The image contains nothing unique that the superseding SVG does not have. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Lacking fair-use rationale, I tagged it for speedy deletion, but someone, removed the tag Jackaranga (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I removed it, myself, as there are far better things that can be done, like adding fair-use rationales oneself, which persistent deletionists seem to turn a blind eye to. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE TO ADMINS Please visit Mangwanani's talk page-Jackaranga has recently nominated 19 images for deletion. At some point doesn't this amount to harrassment and Wikistalking? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IMO not if the images are nominated in good faith, check out this history of NoSoftwarePatents talk page for example, me and another editor nominated around 200 of his images for deletion in one go, all save one were deleted in the end. As long as it's in good faith there is no problem. I just want to remove all the images he has simply taken from random internet sites and labelled as his own, without ever attributing the source, always just PD-Self. Jackaranga (talk) 16:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That is so easily fixed, what definition are you using for good faith? Helping an eager editor to see their error and tagging them correctly would be good faith. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't the constructive thing be to help Mangwanani with the license tags? Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention that it's the decent thing to do as a human being. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fair use is not applicable for Coats of Arms since they can always be freely recreated based on the blasoning. /Lokal_Profil 15:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You could wait until the Graphics Lab have created an SVG version so they can claim copyright for it...Mangwanani (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for waiting... Mangwanani (talk) 18:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Original ASCII art not created by user and free alternatives are possible so it doesn't qualify as Fair Use Lokal_Profil 15:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The concern is whether the image can quality for Fair Use or not. As per WP:NONFREE, "Copyrighted images that reasonably can be replaced by free/libre images are not suitable for Wikipedia." This image, however, cannot 'reasonably' be replaced by a free image. This is because it is not trivial to generate the associated ASCII art. The image is a screenshot of software, and a work of visual art. It is used for critical commentary. Consequently, it should be kept. --AB (talk) 17:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It's not about whether or not it's easy to create an alternative, it's whether or not it's possible. For a music album a free alternative is not possible. For a picture of Will Smith a free alternative is possible. For this image it is possible to create a free alternative and hence it doesn't qualify for fair use. /Lokal_Profil 16:08, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lokal, please point me to a WP policy page and section that explicitly confirms this. --AB (talk) 01:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You quoted it yourself here above Copyrighted images that reasonably can be replaced by free/libre images are not suitable for Wikipedia. Or more specifically Wikipedia:NONFREE#Images_2 point number 12. /Lokal_Profil 12:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The statement I had quoted was followed by my statements stating why the image can be kept. Additionally, I fail to see how the statement you pointed me to specifically prevents the use of the stated image. At this time this stands as 1 for delete vs 2 for keep. I request that you get arbitration from a WP Administrator. --AB (talk) 23:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Faked image, not used in any article. Not necessary for Wikipedia. Coreycubed (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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