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    Image/source check requests[edit]

    FAC mentoring: first-time nominators[edit]

    A voluntary mentoring scheme, designed to help first-time FAC nominators through the process and to improve their chances of a successful outcome, is now in action. Click here for further details. Experienced FAC editors, with five or more "stars" behind them, are invited to consider adding their names to the list of possible mentors, also found in the link. Brianboulton (talk) 10:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    FAC source reviews[edit]

    For advice on conducting source reviews, see Wikipedia:Guidance on source reviewing at FAC.

    FAC reviewing statistics and nominator reviewing table for March 2024[edit]

    Here are the FAC reviewing statistics for March 2024. The tables below include all reviews for FACS that were either archived or promoted last month, so the reviews included are spread over the last two or three months. A review posted last month is not included if the FAC was still open at the end of the month. The facstats tool has been updated with this data. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Reviewers for March 2024
    # reviews Type of review
    Reviewer Content Source Image Accessibility
    Jo-Jo Eumerus 1 10 7
    Nikkimaria 15
    RoySmith 9 1
    SchroCat 8 1
    UndercoverClassicist 8 1
    Gog the Mild 7
    Kusma 6
    Mike Christie 5 1
    TompaDompa 5
    ChrisTheDude 4
    Epicgenius 3 1
    Jens Lallensack 4
    Premeditated Chaos 3 1
    TechnoSquirrel69 1 1 2
    Vami IV 1 2 1
    ZooBlazer 1 3
    Eddie891 3
    Grungaloo 2 1
    Heartfox 3
    JennyOz 3
    Johnbod 3
    SusunW 2 1
    Tim riley 3
    Volcanoguy 3
    AryKun 1 1
    Draken Bowser 2
    Dudley Miles 2
    Esculenta 2
    FunkMonk 2
    Guerillero 2
    HJ Mitchell 2
    J Milburn 2
    JimKillock 2
    MyCatIsAChonk 2
    Shapeyness 2
    Vanamonde93 2
    Voorts 1 1
    Your Power 2
    ZKang123 1 1
    Adam Cuerden 1
    AirshipJungleman29 1
    Aoba47 1
    Brachy0008 1
    Buidhe 1
    Caeciliusinhorto 1
    Casliber 1
    Ceoil 1
    Chipmunkdavis 1
    Choliamb 1
    Czar 1
    Daniel Case 1
    Edge3 1
    Eem dik doun in toene 1
    Eewilson 1
    Elli 1
    Femke 1
    FrB.TG 1
    GeoWriter 1
    Gerald Waldo Luis 1
    Graham Beards 1
    HAL333 1
    Hawkeye7 1
    Hdog1996 1
    Hog Farm 1
    Hydrangeans 1
    Ian Rose 1
    KN2731 1
    Lankyant 1
    Miniapolis 1
    NightWolf1223 1
    PatrickJWelsh 1
    PCN02WPS 1
    Peacemaker67 1
    Pendright 1
    Phlsph7 1
    Pickersgill-Cunliffe 1
    Pseud 14 1
    Rodney Baggins 1
    Sammi Brie 1
    Sandbh 1
    Serial Number 54129 1
    SnowFire 1
    SNUGGUMS 1
    Sohom Datta 1
    Steelkamp 1
    Sturmvogel 66 1
    Teratix 1
    The Night Watch 1
    Tomisti 1
    Trainsandotherthings 1
    Umimmak 1
    Vaughan J. 1
    Wehwalt 1
    WhatamIdoing 1
    Ykraps 1
    Totals 166 25 32
    Supports and opposes for March 2024
    # declarations Declaration
    Editor Support Oppose converted to support Struck oppose Struck support Oppose None Total
    Jo-Jo Eumerus 1 17 18
    Nikkimaria 15 15
    RoySmith 4 6 10
    UndercoverClassicist 3 2 4 9
    SchroCat 6 3 9
    Gog the Mild 6 1 7
    Mike Christie 3 1 2 6
    Kusma 6 6
    TompaDompa 1 3 1 5
    Premeditated Chaos 2 2 4
    ZooBlazer 1 3 4
    Epicgenius 2 1 1 4
    Jens Lallensack 1 1 2 4
    Vami IV 4 4
    ChrisTheDude 4 4
    TechnoSquirrel69 4 4
    SusunW 1 2 3
    Grungaloo 2 1 3
    Eddie891 1 2 3
    Johnbod 2 1 3
    JennyOz 3 3
    Volcanoguy 1 2 3
    Tim riley 2 1 3
    Heartfox 1 1 1 3
    ZKang123 1 1 2
    Vanamonde93 2 2
    AryKun 1 1 2
    HJ Mitchell 2 2
    MyCatIsAChonk 2 2
    Shapeyness 2 2
    Your Power 1 1 2
    Esculenta 1 1 2
    Voorts 2 2
    J Milburn 2 2
    Dudley Miles 2 2
    Guerillero 2 2
    Draken Bowser 1 1 2
    JimKillock 1 1 2
    FunkMonk 2 2
    Phlsph7 1 1
    Czar 1 1
    PCN02WPS 1 1
    Chipmunkdavis 1 1
    SNUGGUMS 1 1
    Tomisti 1 1
    SnowFire 1 1
    Eem dik doun in toene 1 1
    Hawkeye7 1 1
    Choliamb 1 1
    Pseud 14 1 1
    Hog Farm 1 1
    Vaughan J. 1 1
    Ceoil 1 1
    Ian Rose 1 1
    Miniapolis 1 1
    Steelkamp 1 1
    Lankyant 1 1
    Pendright 1 1
    Elli 1 1
    Sammi Brie 1 1
    PatrickJWelsh 1 1
    Femke 1 1
    Edge3 1 1
    Buidhe 1 1
    Ykraps 1 1
    FrB.TG 1 1
    Peacemaker67 1 1
    Teratix 1 1
    Gerald Waldo Luis 1 1
    Sohom Datta 1 1
    Rodney Baggins 1 1
    Eewilson 1 1
    Trainsandotherthings 1 1
    Umimmak 1 1
    Serial Number 54129 1 1
    Sandbh 1 1
    Caeciliusinhorto 1 1
    The Night Watch 1 1
    Brachy0008 1 1
    Sturmvogel 66 1 1
    Aoba47 1 1
    Adam Cuerden 1 1
    Wehwalt 1 1
    Casliber 1 1
    KN2731 1 1
    Pickersgill-Cunliffe 1 1
    Graham Beards 1 1
    HAL333 1 1
    GeoWriter 1 1
    Hydrangeans 1 1
    Daniel Case 1 1
    WhatamIdoing 1 1
    NightWolf1223 1 1
    AirshipJungleman29 1 1
    Hdog1996 1 1
    Totals 96 1 16 110 223

    The following table shows the 12-month review-to-nominations ratio for everyone who nominated an article that was promoted or archived in the last three months who has nominated more than one article in the last 12 months. The average promoted FAC receives between 6 and 7 reviews. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Nominators for January 2024 to March 2024 with more than one nomination in the last 12 months
    Nominations (12 mos) Reviews (12 mos) Ratio (12 mos)
    AirshipJungleman29 7.0 33.0 4.7
    Aoba47 4.0 63.0 15.8
    ChrisTheDude 10.0 104.0 10.4
    Darkwarriorblake 5.0 3.0 0.6
    David notMD 2.0 None 0.0
    Dudley Miles 2.0 29.0 14.5
    Edge3 2.0 4.0 2.0
    Elias Ziade 1.5 1.0 0.7
    Epicgenius 7.5 21.0 2.8
    FrB.TG 4.0 24.0 6.0
    FunkMonk 3.3 27.0 8.1
    Generalissima 3.0 4.0 1.3
    Hawkeye7 6.0 39.0 6.5
    Heartfox 8.0 33.0 4.1
    Hog Farm 4.0 19.0 4.8
    Ippantekina 6.0 9.0 1.5
    Jens Lallensack 3.3 22.0 6.6
    Jo-Jo Eumerus 5.0 152.0 30.4
    Kusma 2.0 23.0 11.5
    Lankyant 2.0 1.0 0.5
    Lee Vilenski 6.0 9.0 1.5
    LittleJerry 3.0 1.0 0.3
    MaranoFan 11.0 46.0 4.2
    Matarisvan 2.0 None 0.0
    Mattximus 2.0 None 0.0
    Mike Christie 6.0 66.0 11.0
    Nick-D 2.0 11.0 5.5
    Peacemaker67 7.0 4.0 0.6
    Phlsph7 4.0 8.0 2.0
    Pickersgill-Cunliffe 2.0 2.0 1.0
    Premeditated Chaos 9.3 23.0 2.5
    Pseud 14 5.0 44.0 8.8
    RoySmith 3.0 25.0 8.3
    SchroCat 14.5 110.0 7.6
    SounderBruce 2.0 4.0 2.0
    Sportzeditz 2.0 None 0.0
    The Night Watch 3.0 9.0 3.0
    Thebiguglyalien 4.0 12.0 3.0
    Therapyisgood 1.3 3.0 2.2
    Tim O'Doherty 1.5 13.0 8.7
    TompaDompa 3.5 18.0 5.1
    UndercoverClassicist 4.0 64.0 16.0
    Usernameunique 3.0 2.0 0.7
    Vami IV 2.8 14.0 4.9
    Voorts 4.5 22.0 4.9
    Wehwalt 7.5 33.0 4.4
    Wolverine XI 2.0 1.0 0.5
    ZKang123 6.0 14.0 2.3

    -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Out of curiosity, is the underlying data compiled by hand? Edge3 (talk) 03:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Partly. A bot creates its best guess and puts it in User:Mike Christie/sandbox. I then go through with the FAC archive on a second screen and edit it to correct things the bot wasn't able to spot -- e.g. I remove edits that are not reviews, such as formatting fixes. Then the bot returns and generates the text posted above. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What is a FAC review's purpose?[edit]

    What is to be done if a GA which is a FAC does not meet basic GA criteria? It contains original research, copyright violations and close paraphrasing, does not address the main aspects of the topic, its sourcing is also problematic. Borsoka (talk) 03:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This discussion has now escalated to WP:ANI#Crusading movement. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Dinosaur colouration image review[edit]

    Three large horned dinosaurs in a forest, with small feathered dinosaurs in the foreground
    One of the images in question, captioned as: Three ceratopsids from the Kaiparowits Formation: Utahceratops, Nasutoceratops, and Kosmoceratops

    Not sure if this is the right venue, but it is relevant to a lot of articles, so I thought it was best to discuss it in a more general place than a specific FAC. At the Nasutoceratops FAC[2], Gog the Mild asked for citations supporting the specific colour patterns shown in the life restorations of dinosaurs used in the article (some of which are depicted with eye spots and other bold patterns), or if it could be stated in the captions that the colours shown are conjectural. I replied that while we have sources that say that dinosaurs generally could have been boldly patterned for display as in modern animals, we don't have sources that mention eye spots or these animals in particular (we do know partial colouration of a few other dinosaurs), though we do have artwork by palaeontologists that show such patterns in related dinosaurs (though without the captions of these images pointing out the patterns). Note that the used images do have citations on Commons that support their general anatomy, and have been reviewed at WP:dinoart.

    I objected to stating directly in the image captions that colours are conjectural, as this isn't how relevant sources caption their images (as it is assumed to be a given that their colours are generally unknown, and colouration is only mentioned in captions when actually known), and we should follow how the literature covers it instead of in an original way. It would also set a precedent whereby we have to mention this in thousands of image captions across Wikipedia where we use life restorations of prehistoric animals whose colours are unknown (which is also why I don't think a single FAC should be testing ground for such a proposal, it should be discussed widely first). I instead suggested it could be mentioned in the alt text that the images show conjectural colours, or that reliably published images which show similar colouration could be referenced in the Commons description, to keep it out of the already very long captions. Gog failed the review because he thinks we should solidly source anything we say or portray in the article itself I presume, but I disagree in this case for the reasons mentioned above, as well as per WP:OI and WP:PERTINENCE (policies which have been brought up in previous discussions of paleoart[3][4][5][6]), hence I would like to hear some more opinions. FunkMonk (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I agree with Gog. "it is assumed to be a given that their colours are generally unknown" what is a simple assumption for you is likely not for a general reader. Adding "colouring conjectural" or similar is not that big of a deal, and keeps readers firmly aware of what we know and don't know. I'm reminded of that story where a scientist from a future where spiders are extinct time-travels back to now, and is absolutely flabbergasted when he learns that they have webs. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:37, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the difference between Wikipedia's presentation and in reliable sources is that, despite being based on sources and reviewed by other contributors, Wikipedia's reconstructions are fundamentally amateur work, and especially when dealing with content one cannot verify (besides they're gone, or extinct, or whatever) it's fair to explain the limits of what can be assumed versus evidenced. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If it's a historic image I absolutely oppose colorization because the colors are not known to us. This image being entirely original, I don't see the issue because if you can draw the dinosaur you can also add color, even if it's consistent with what we know there must be quite a bit of originality. (t · c) buidhe 15:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As Gog's request seems to just add the two words "colouring conjectural" to the caption, I'm not sure what the problem is. The colouring is conjectural, after all. If scientists crack some genome that shows they were really purple and green, then new images can come and the two words removed, but I don't think the request is a problematic one. - SchroCat (talk) 15:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that captioning it "Three ceratopsids...." seems misleading. Would folks be satisfied with a caption along the lines of "Paleoartist's representation of three ceratopsids..."? Just clicking through some arbitrarily selected dinosaur FAs I see a lot of "Restoration of...", "Hypothetical feathered model...", "Artist's impression of...", "Life restoration of...", "Reconstruction of...". In fact, I don't really see other FAs (though I haven't looked very hard) where artist's renderings are referred to as fact. I don't love "colouring conjectural" as I assume(?) much more than the colouring is left to conjecture. Ajpolino (talk) 15:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a novel suggestion, yes, I've never seen it before. But if we assume this is the road we want to go, we should clarify how exactly we want to do this, and what the wider implications are. So for the proponents, how would the article in question look? It has three such palaeoartistic reconstructions, should they all have a note saying the colouration is conjectural, or is it enough in the caption of the first restoration? And should every single usage of such palaeoart anywhere on Wikipedia have such a caption? Either way, I think it would be good to have a note on use of palaeoart in the general WP:manual of style for images, as issues relating to their creation and use are recurring themes, and the WP:palaeoproject's internal WP:palaeoart guidelines probably won't be accepted as "official", Wikipedia-wide guidelines by non-members. FunkMonk (talk) 22:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with Ajpolino—each artist's rendition image should be clearly labeled as such so that it cannot be confused with an actual photograph. Once it is labeled clearly (in each caption), it's obvious to the reader that some aspects (such as the coloring) are creative rather than documentation of information. (t · c) buidhe 22:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Usually we mark them like that by stating it is a life restoration/life reconstruction, which links to the article on palaeoart. FunkMonk (talk) 22:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @FunkMonk: It is a novel suggestion... I've never seen it before I assume you mean specifically "Paleoartist's representation"? To be clear, I'm fine with the other examples I quoted from dinosaur FAs (e.g. "Life restoration of...", "Artist's impression of...). I suspect that would be fine with many others, though I'm extrapolating a bit from their actual comments. Clicking at random through some of your other FAs, I see you typically use versions of that when captioning artists' renderings. I'm not sure why you chose not to do that at Nasutoceratops. But I think if you caption File:Kaiparowits fauna.jpg in the typical way (by explicitly calling it out as a life restoration), most people will be happy. Ajpolino (talk) 16:55, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I've never seen "colouring conjectural" in a caption of a paleoartistic work, as this is usually a given. Writing "restoration/reconstruction" and similar is already the norm for such captions. In this case, "restoration of" could be added to the other captions as well, but the issue at hand was whether the captions should specifically mention colouration. FunkMonk (talk) 18:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @FunkMonk: Below, Gog stated that he would be happy if the captions would just start with "hypothetical life restoration", without specifically mention the colouration. If you agree too, and nobody else objects, this would solve the issue. Jens Lallensack (talk) 19:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, so I wonder if I should make a vote of options, or if Gog the Mild and others would agree that the above caption would be fine if it said "Hypothetical life restoration of three ceratopsids from the Kaiparowits Formation: Utahceratops, Nasutoceratops, and Kosmoceratops". And this should be done with every restoration in a single article, just to be clear? FunkMonk (talk) 19:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So far as the image review that started this is concerned, if you were to do that I can't see why I wouldn't pass it. And it seems an acceptable way of handling any future similar cases, although I am sure there are other broadly acceptable turns of phrase. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, consider it done (in a few moments), and yes, that could be implemented in future nominations. And I think this and related issues should be formulated into a guideline somewhere, at least somewhere at the palaeontology and dinosaur project pages. FunkMonk (talk) 19:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I had also hoped that marking all those images as "life restorations" or "artist's impressions" in the captions would be clear enough (still missing in the example caption btw). While I do see some merit in explicitly pointing out that the colours are created by the artist, I fear that this statement – added under all such images – very quickly feels repetitive. If we decide that such a statement is required, I would suggest to be pragmatic and limit this requirement to the first such image in an article, and to FAs only (since these are much more exposed to readers without any background knowledge). However, I do not particularly like the wording "conjectural" or "hypothetical", because this could imply that scientists have some vague hypothesis about the colors, which is not the case – the colors are merely an invention of the artist. Therefore, we would need a statement such as "colours in ceratopsids are unknown", if we decide to include such a statement. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm. I think one issue here is that folks may interpret the lack of colouration as evidence that dinosaurs were colourless. Certainly that's how white statues from antiquity were interpreted before we found evidence that they were coloured. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Jo-Jo, I don't think that any one is suggesting that - if they have, I have missed it. By all means let us have a best guess as to how the creatures were coloured and patterned in reconstructions. My view is that in such cases we should clearly tell a reader that they are just that - a guess. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gog the Mild: I wonder if you would find stronger wording like "hypothetical life restoration" in the image captions sufficient? I fear that, if we are specifically stating that the colors are guesswork, the reader might assume that all other aspects are not guesswork, but that is only partly true (for example, we don't know how fleshy these animals were, how the skin folds looked like, and how long the horns were exactly because only the horn cores are preserved but not the keratin cover). Jens Lallensack (talk) 14:55, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Jens, you won't get an argument from me over any of that. I think that this discussion is an attempt to establish a consensus on the principle, using my comments as a concrete example. As FunkMonk points out, a local consensus for a different approach has developed. There seems to me - I am more than open to correction - to be a consensus among the FAC community that reconstructions should labelled as conjectural, and that this should be in each and every case. I would (further?) propose that every such image has its caption start with "A hypothetical life restoration of ..." or something similar in meaning. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Gog the Mild, sorry if I misunderstood. My question was just if you would personally be satisfied if the image captions in Nasutoceratops would start with "A hypothetical life restoration" (a change with witch I would fully agree), or whether you think that an additional note explicitly stating that the colors are unknown is also necessary. Jens Lallensack (talk) 16:14, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I personally would be happy with that. Barring further more convincing arguments from others. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This seems very reasonable and in line with existing practice for palaeontology FAs. Any further and the text written to justify the restoration could very well become more OR than the restoration itself. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 19:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This would work best, I think. The Morrison Man (talk) 18:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Columbian mammoth article has a few art examples, which have captions including "1909 life restoration by Charles R. Knight based on the same specimen", "life restoration (right) based on same; the extent of the fur is hypothetical", "by Robert Bruce Horsfall, 1911", "Fanciful restoration of a Columbian mammoth hunt, J. Steeple Davis, 1885", and one piece of art which has no explanation in the caption. I would agree with Ajpolino and Jens Lallensack that if some indication of restoration/impression is clear then there isn't a need to also explicitly point out colours in the article caption. CMD (talk) 11:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    FYI: Nominate / support TWL partners[edit]

    Only just found this out, but here's the Magic Cave's suggestion box for future Wikipedia Library resouce partners. Lots of solid potential vis à vis both newspaper and academic texts. Scroll down the list and upvote at your leisure. (Note that some of them have been partnered already some time—I have no idea why there're still there.) ——Serial Number 54129 15:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    They even added one of my suggestions! (t · c) buidhe 16:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Goldfinger! Wot one was that Buidhe? :) ——Serial Number 54129 19:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Central and Eastern European Online Library (t · c) buidhe 19:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Voted a few up. Shame that few people use Lyell or GeoScienceWorld. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, there seem to be a fair number of duplicates in the list. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting a mentor for first time nominator[edit]

    Hello, I'm Pbritti! I primarily create content related to Christian liturgical and American architectural subjects, with six GAs in those areas. I've been interested in the FAC process for a long time but have never felt comfortable participating when I still sometimes feel like a novice regarding the higher-level considerations. After much work, consultation, and further self-assessment, I finally feel ready to nominate an article: Free and Candid Disquisitions, on a mid-18th-century religious pamphlet by John Jones that had a substantial impact on Anglican and Unitarian worship practices. The article passed as a GA earlier this year and underwent a low-turnout PR more recently. Given my inexperience, I am extending a request for a mentor.

    Some considerations for a possible mentor:

    • I live in the Eastern Time Zone of the United States (presently UTC−04:00)
    • My work schedule causes peaks and valleys in activity on-Wiki but I edit daily. For the next couple months, I'll be fairly available with four-day weekends
    • I have access to the Wikipedia Discord but would prefer to communicate either on-Wiki or via email
    • I'm more than willing to offer my help in any tedious project on-Wiki as compensation for mentorship (maybe you need someone who can swap umlauts for diaereses across a couple hundred articles?)

    If you're interested or wish for me to offer further details regarding myself and my proposed FAC, please reply here or on my talk page. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    New statistics tool to get information about an editor's GA history[edit]

    I mentioned this at WT:GAN, but there may be editors here who would be interested who don't watch that page: I've created a GA statistics page that takes an editor's name as input and returns some summary information about their interactions with GA. It shows all their nominations and reviews, and gives a summary of their statistics -- number promoted, number that are still GAs, and the review-to-GA ratio. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    A useful summary! Thank you. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 11:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Very handy. Thanks Mike. Although "Promoted GA nominations: 108; Promoted GA nominations that are still GAs: 50" caused me to panic before I realised that it was because 58 GANs had been promoted to FA, and so - technically - they ceased to be GAs. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm trying to work out my Promoted GA nominations: 17 but Promoted GA nominations that are still GAs: 37 ... followed by a lit of 19! - SchroCat (talk) 08:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It was a combination of two things. One was a bug -- if a nominator put spaces around their username, as happened here for example, the tool was not removing them, so that nomination was credited to ' Schrodinger's cat is alive' with a leading space. That's now fixed, so asking the tool for GAs for that old user name will now correctly report those old GAs. The "still GAs" number is maintained by SDZeroBot, which automatically tracks username changes -- that's why it shows 37 for "SchroCat". I decided not to automatically connect old usernames to new ones because not everyone wants their old usernames advertised, but I can do so on request. I'm going to assume in your case you do want to connect them since the signature was "SchroCat" even back then, so I've added your names to the name-change list. You should now see the correct results -- let me know if anything still looks wrong. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah - that looks much more like it. Thanks Mike! - SchroCat (talk) 11:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nice work, and thanks to Mike for fixing the GAN bot's count of successful nominations for those of us with apostrophes. Cheers — Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Template usage[edit]

    Is it ok to use {{cot}}/{{cob}} in FAC discussions for reasons other than to hide offtopic discussions? I’d like to use them to hide lengthy threads that have been resolved. YBG (talk) 14:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    PS, is it really true that there are only four FAC coordinators? My hats off to y'all for performing this important service!!!! YBG (talk) 14:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Speaking just for myself, I would rather you didn't. It would make life slightly more difficult for me every time I look at the nom to consider if it is ready for closure.
    It is, an all-time high I think, and thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]