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Syrian origin ?[edit]

The Khwam family is of Syrian origin.

I found this source that says her parents were Syrians

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a975/david-petraeus-scandal-kelley-sisters/

[[Sélim Khawam]] Whatsupkarren (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I propose a total reboot[edit]

If a few people are happy to work alongside me, I propose we pare this article back to a stub and line by line rebuilding using only quality references from reliable sources and very neutral language. It's languished for a long time with the COI-editing tag, even though the subject says it isn't true (I have no other information about that) and up above I see a lot of contentious back and forth rather than calm Wikipedia-style work to make a decent unbiased biography.

I plan to wait for comments until Thursday, and then decide next steps for whether I'll launch into this myself.

I have no conflict of interest here. Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be happy to help, Jimbo. I have no conflict of interest. = paul2520 💬 14:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Should be fun! I hope to get some free time later this week but it could be next week - London Tech Week this week and lots to do.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dug into the history a bit, including reviewing frequent editors and learning more about Kelley and . There's a long history & several sockpuppet accounts have touched the page. Suffice it to say, the total reboot idea is valid.

I can't say I've done a total rework (at least not of an article this long), but am excited to collaborate on this.

Here's a tentative plan:

one of us starts Draft:Jill Kelley as if it were a new article, leveraging sources from this article or via new searches
once that article is in a reasonable state, replace the contents of this article & redirect the draft

make sure the edit summary references Draft:Jill Kelley and/or this talk page (perhaps rewrite due to COI/UPE; see [[Draft:Jill Kelley]] and [[Talk:Jill Kelley]] for more context)

I'm happy to get started on this, possibly as early as tonight or tomorrow. = paul2520 💬 14:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimbo Wales: I started Draft:Jill Kelley, and would appreciate you reviewing/contributing. I've been more focused on the Bio thus far, which still needs more content. I started a Controversies section, and think both subsections could be expanded.

I will keep expanding as I can. = paul2520 💬 22:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]