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Requested move at Talk:Sydney R-Class Tram#Requested move 4 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sydney R-Class Tram#Requested move 4 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Replacement of Vicsig links

Hi all,

I've noticed some Vicsig links being marked for replacement recently. I thought it was worth mentioning that the site usually (not always) provides its sources for each entry in the location pages these days, so that can probably be substituted? For example, the Vicsig page for Yarraman station references Victorian Railways Weekly Notice No.50 of 1976; the weekly notice contents are generally available either in various magazines/journals which can be found online (e.g. Newsrail behind a paywall, Somersault perpetually up to two or three years prior) or Weekly Notice Extracts 1894 - 1994, 1996, Alan N. Jungwirth, Keith W. Lambert, Weekly Notice Productions, ISBN 0646300105. The main value in linking to Vicsig directly is that each location has a timeline of known events (and some pages have track diagrams for various eras), so providing a link under "External Links" or "Further Reading" might be worth considering. Otherwise, maybe someone could develop a citation template like the one we already have for Newsrail, that works for the Extracts book, and one for Somersault? That's well outside my skill set. Anothersignalman (talk) 17:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

East Pakenham extension

I've just updated the adjacent stations module and the "Services by platforms" sections for all of the Pakenham line stations. Hopefully I haven't missed any instances of Pakenham needing to be changed to East Pakenham!

Could someone with more knowledge of the railmap templates please update Template:Pakenham Metro Service? Fork99 (talk) 23:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh and List of Metro Trains Melbourne railway stations, Railways in Melbourne, and Pakenham line need to be updated as well. Maybe Metro Trains Melbourne too, but I'm not 100% sure on that one. Fork99 (talk) 23:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and updated the list of railway stations article just a few things

• I've gone ahead and requested a photo for the new station to add to both the list and seperate stations artcle
• When the station was in the future section of the list of stations article there was a bus icon i removed it for now as there are not yet buses serving the station
• There also needs to be a better source for the East Pakenham opening date as the source I used on the list of railway stations article was published before the station opened not after NotOrrio (talk) 00:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Some updates are required for Pakenham line as well, including the stations tables and infobox. I have used https://pakenham.starcommunity.com.au/news/2024-06-03/level-crossings-gone-new-stations-open/ as another source for the opening date. Steelkamp (talk) 04:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

WA TransRegional bus system articles

On the TransGoldfields and Swan Transit articles, it mentions that Swan Transit is the operator of buses in Kalgoorlie, but all information I could find online is that Path Transit is the operator, e.g. Kalgoorlie Timetable on Path website, Path Transit about page, Kalgoorlie ticket guide on Path website. Just from personal experience, I visited Kalgoorlie in 2017 and the buses said that Path Transit was the operator as well.

Has the operator changed in the past 10-20 years or so or is this just a mix-up?

Also, I sort of doubt WP:GNG of the existing TransRegional bus network articles (TransBunbury, TransGeraldton, TransGoldfields), any ideas if a merge into Transperth under a section for TransRegional should happen? Note that TransAlbany (redirect), TransBusselton (redirect), TransCarnavon, TransCollie, TransEsperance, TransHedland and TransKarratha don't have separate articles on them yet. Fork99 (talk) 01:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Western Australian bus services are inadequately edited upon, and it is simply a process of editors who are keen to actually find the information and actually edit the articles. The https://www.pta.wa.gov.au/our-services/transregional main source of the overview of the PTA transregional services, and from a quick overview, the problem with regional bus services in any state is most are a mess and not regularly updated as they should.(For instance Burnie in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Tasmania shows indication of bus services not otherwise identified or work on, as far as I can see) It would be very interesting for the larger transport australia project to have a review of such services in each state that has them, and compare quality or general state of articles. JarrahTree 02:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I think merging into a new page on TransRegional would be best, where all TransRegional brands can be covered. I have created Draft:TransRegional to work on this. When that gets moved to mainspace, the existing TransRegional articles can be merged into that on a case-by-case basis. Some of the existing articles, namely TransBunbury, might be able stand on their own though without merging.

Regarding the operators, the discrepancy you are seeing is because the bus contracts are retendered every ten years or so. The PTA website says that TransGoldfields is run by Swan Transit. This article on Busnews.com.au from 2023 says that Swan Transit began operating in Kalgoorlie two years before. Steelkamp (talk) 05:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Strong objection to merging - the regional bus history is not necessarily 'case-by-case' at all - all of the regional bus operations, if properly written up are adequately notable each and every one - it is simply not an easy task to offset the urge to merge - the material is there, it is just the time and effort of editor(s) to wean themselves of online materials... JarrahTree 05:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Also WA is not an orphan, regional bus services in Australia are poorly written up - and could do with lots of what is apparently not available - active editors in the area. JarrahTree 05:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)