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Note: This talk page concerns the "my own work" upload page. It is linked from Wikipedia:Upload.

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This message includes Image:Exquisite-khelpcenter.png. That image is tagged as being superseded and more importantly is not protected, while the image that supersedes it, Image:Information icon.svg, is protected. Please replace Image:Exquisite-khelpcenter.png with Image:Information icon.svg. Thanks – Gurch 20:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - cohesion 01:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Table of linked license tags

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I suggest adding this table to the "own work" upload page:

License tags used in selector menu.

In the same order as the menu.

{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0| GFDL}}
{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0 |GFDL}}
{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0}}
{{self |cc-by-3.0}}
{{PD-self}}

One of the above tags can be copied directly
into an image page during initial image
uploading, or later to correct mistakes.
Hover over an entry in the selector menu to
see the license tag wikicode for that entry.
To see what each tag produces click its
entry in the dropdown selector menu. The
license box will show up below the menu.

Users are uploading images, and then realizing they used the wrong tag. I have discussed this with a user recently. They were completely baffled as to how to repair their mistake. For more info see:

They could not find the tags used by the selector menu. So they could not go back and fix their mistake. I could not find the tags at first either.

This table solves the problem. In addition it links directly to the relevant tag pages for more info. Other info pages cover too many tags to be of much help. Especially for someone in a hurry. People are just picking tags at random now from the selector menu in many cases because they don't have a clue what the tags mean. The info in the improved selector menu is better, but it is still mostly jargon to most people.

This table is bound to interest uploaders who see this table and want quick answers. Not everybody wants to be image uploading geeks like us, and spend hours searching in vain for explanations. --Timeshifter (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I do not like this idea. I've thought about it and I would recommend putting a link named "Help! I made a mistake" on Wikipedia:Upload instead. That way, we wouldn't have to have separate boxes for each upload form, we could just explain how to edit image pages and link to the list of image copyright tags. —Remember the dot (talk) 23:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Image copyright tags is not much help, and sending people off the "own work" upload page to Wikipedia:Upload to find another help page is just confusing. I have made several suggestions on how we can more clearly explain uploading, and you seem dead set against nearly all my ideas. Unless you can give some reasons other than WP:IDONTLIKEIT for not explaining uploading better on the "own work" upload page, then people should ignore you in my opinion.
The wikicode for "own work" copyright tags is key to uploading one's own images, and for correcting those image pages. Newbies have pointed out that sending them to multiple pages to get help is not very useful. They have asked me and others for better instructions on the "own work" upload page.
There is related discussion here:
Wikipedia talk:Upload#Remove "Permission" field from "own work" form

One of the tags can be copied directly
into an image page during initial image
uploading, or later to correct mistakes.
Hover over an entry in the selector menu to
see the license tag wikicode for that entry.
To see what each tag produces click its
entry in the dropdown selector menu. The
license box will show up below the menu.

License tags used in selector menu.

In the same order as the menu.

{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0| GFDL}}

{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0 |GFDL}}

{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0}}

{{self |cc-by-3.0}}

{{PD-self}}

The above table spreads the info out horizontally rather than vertically as in the previous table. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Here is a more compact version using rowspan rather than linebreaks and horizontal rules for layout. —Random832 17:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
License tags used in selector menu. In the same order as the menu.

One of these tags can be copied directly into an image page during initial image uploading, or later to correct mistakes. Hover over an entry in the selector menu to see the license tag wikicode for that entry. To see what each tag produces click its entry in the dropdown selector menu. The license box will show up below the menu.

{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0| GFDL}}
{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0| GFDL}}
{{self |cc-by-sa-3.0}}
{{self |cc-by-3.0}}
{{PD-self}}
Looks good. I like the clear title bar. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Again, a "Help! I did something wrong!" link on Wikipedia:Upload would be more flexible and could provide more in-depth instructions on how to fix image uploading problems. —Remember the dot (talk) 17:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this talk page concerns the "my own work" upload page. Flexible is good. It would be even more flexible to use one of the above tables on this "my own work" upload page, too.--Timeshifter (talk) 18:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't clear. I don't have a problem with a "Help! I did something wrong!" link on the "my own work" upload page. I think it would be a good idea. Now that you are an admin, you can add that link. I just think it would also be flexible to include the table of tags on the upload page. People may not have done anything wrong. They may just want to batch paste the info into the own work upload form. Or they may just want to understand the main tags better. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I used a wikipedia article to make a graph. I now have a few questions.

1) Is my work copywritable?

2) Does it automatically have a copyright?

3) Which copyright tag should I use when posting the image?

4) How would I get a copyright?

Thanks, Hamtechperson Repeater 00:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1) That can actually be a difficult question to answer. In the U.S., copyright is based on creativity, so it can be arguable if there is copyright in very standard types of graphs -- but often there is enough creativity involved. Other countries have different criteria, so even if it is not eligible for copyright in the U.S. it may be eligible elsewhere (and vice versa). So... "quite probably" is a decent answer, but it is impossible to say without seeing the actual work (and even then it could be arguable). If you are willing to license it freely, it is best to assume that it is copyrightable and specify a license. Mention the source of the data for the graph... hopefully the Wikipedia article specifies a source for *its* data, so mention that too.
2) If it is copyrightable, then yes in virtually all countries (including the U.S.) the copyright is automatic.
3) To be eligible for Wikipedia/Wikimedia, it must have a free license. The most typical licenses are CC-BY or CC-BY-SA (depending on what restrictions you want); often uploaders add the GFDL license as well to lower the chance of compatibility concerns (derivative works cannot combine elements from only-GFDL and only-CC-BY-SA images due to technical incompatibilities in the licenses). Or, you could declare it to be public domain (no restrictions at all). If you are doing this, it is far preferable that the image be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons so that it can be used by all the other projects (the procedure is basically the same).
4) You would already have it. Carl Lindberg (talk) 14:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. Hamtechperson Repeater 15:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The ariticle used was List of Magic: The Gathering sets. Hamtechperson Repeater 15:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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