Talk:2012 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final

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Eligibility?[edit]

I know nothing out this topic, but I thought some mention of player eligibility could be appropriate - minimum age? past experience having played in a specific league or level? I presume one must be Irish?--Billymac00 (talk) 00:07, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure exactly what you mean?
Patrick McBrearty, the youngest player on this year's winning team, is 19, which is considered quite young to get to this level in Gaelic football. The captain, Michael Murphy, is 23. Both have been targeted by the Australian Football League who want them to play professional Australian rules football. The oldest players on this year's winning team are about 30.
The All-Ireland features teams from the counties of Ireland. So they play in competitions in these counties when not playing for the intercounty team at the top level. This year's winners are from Donegal.
You don't necessarily have to be Irish to play Gaelic games, although to get to this level it helps if you live in Ireland (much like it would help your soccer career if you played in Spain's La Liga or England's Premier League and, presumably, your Australian rules football career if you played in Australia or your American football career if you played in the United States). The game's first superstar Jason Sherlock, 1995 All-Ireland winner, "looks Chinese" [New York Times] and his father is from Hong Kong. [1] Seán Óg Ó hAilpín is from Fiji. Setanta Ó hAilpín was born in Sydney. Losing Mayo manager James Horan's page says he was born in New Zealand. The page on Ryan McMenamin, who has three All-Ireland medals with Tyrone, says he was born in Canada. And so on. You can have been born anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.103.7 (talk) 19:02, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article tone[edit]

I'll defer to someone with more knowledge of the subject to do so, but this article needs a complete re-write:

  • Tone of article is inappropriate, full of subjective, hyperbolic peacock phrases such as "widely considered", "is destined to be".
  • Match description reads like a fan's commentary - phrases such as "slotted into the back of net", "crashing off the Mayo post", "fisted over yet another point", prose such as "photographers swarmed like wasps around Donegal manager". More suited to a blog. It is too long, has too many irrelevant details - " Mark McHugh ran to embrace his father Martin, who was on the sideline working for BBC television coverage of the game"
  • Too many unnecessary details in general: "Taoiseach Enda Kenny—gritting his teeth and wearing a red and green striped tie in the colours of his native Mayo—" - why is that there?
  • Inward-looking. Statements such as "traditionally two of the weaker counties", "the curse" - relies too much on local knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.129.69.23 (talk) 08:19, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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