Talk:AC Monza/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 23:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm Kingsif, and I'll be doing this review. This is an automated message that helps keep the bot updating the nominated article's talkpage working and allows me to say hi. Feel free to reach out and, if you think the review has gone well, I have some open GA nominations that you could (but are under no obligation to) look at. Kingsif (talk) 23:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Ok, stability seems good, nothing outstanding on the talkpage and edit history is safe (supported, for now, by a low level of page protection)
Copyvio check comes up clear too Kingsif (talk) 00:52, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A couple things are sourced to the team's website, pretty simple non-controversial statements (fine), or to the news branch of it, which seems fair. Otherwise sources seem good; mix of reputable Italian news agencies and some football-specific ones. A few books about the team, too.
Acceptable ref and sources formatting, consistent through article. Kingsif (talk) 02:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use logo in infobox, then lots of very useful free images!
- The bus art may need some scrutiny under freedom of panorama in Italy laws
The lead is far too short for the length of the article, most of the history mentioned is from the last few years, it could be good to broaden this part of the lead coverage.
The 32-53 history section might want to explicitly say that because of the shirts, they gained the nickname.
It is possible to link the Rossa Monza hex code to the colour, if you wanted to do that.
Though the stadiums could be merged into the history, I think it is fine the way it is, and personally I like this structure. Kingsif (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overall[edit]

@Nehme1499: Sorry it took so long to upload my main comments, I’ve just given it a look over and have nothing more to add, either. The prose is good and it meets all sourcing requirements. It covers everything I expected and stays on topic. I think the lead could be longer, and there’s some minor suggestions I’ve made, plus a concern about the freeness of the image of the bus advertisement. But that’s all, thanks for the patience. Kingsif (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: Thanks for the comments. Regarding your points above:
I'm not really sure regarding the FOP in Italy. I'd nominate the article for FA anyway, which would have a more thorough image review.
I don't know what information could be added to the lead. True, it does sway more towards the past season, though it was also arguably Monza's most important season in their history. I ~~could add~~ have added that, between the 2000s and 2010s, Monza went bankrupt twice, and had financial issues. Other than that, I don't think that the events pre-60s and between the 70s and 2000s are that important.
I have clarified the nickname/shirt situation.
Wikipedia doesn't have an article for Rosso Monza. Or maybe I didn't understand what you meant Nehme₁₄₉₉ 15:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the last point, I believe that, like external links are accepted in templates relating to creative commons, there is a template that makes a hex code into an external link to the hex color code website and displays the color as well as its RGB and other codes. I cannot remember what the template is, or maybe I dreamt it, or maybe it's an old phab request? In any case, it was an idea and not a requirement. With the note that I think the bus image should be looked at, I couldn't say based on the FoP guidance on commons that I would rule it out as free, so I think we can pass this! Thank you for being so patient! Kingsif (talk) 21:05, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]