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The external link redirects to another site which results in a 404. I'll leave it to the mods/experts as to what to do with it. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A600:1E38:286A:0:0:0:1 (talk) 18:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

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I've just moved the page from American sparrow to the correctly capitalized American Sparrow (here), based on the WikiProject standards. Please complain below if you'd like. Mukk » Talk « 02:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 15, 2020 revisions

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In this update to IOC 10.2, the following changes were made:

  • Update the reference and counts in the introduction.
  • Add two species.
  • Revise six binomials.
  • Revise the sequence of species.

Craigthebirder (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name change from "American sparrow" to "New World sparrow"

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The standard English name for the family Passerellidae is "New World Sparrows". The name is used by all the following:

  • IOC has "New World Sparrows, Bush Tanagers: see here
  • H&M4 vol 2 p.337 has "New World Sparrows and allies" see here
  • Clements Checklist 2019 has "Passerellidae (New World Sparrows)" see here
  • Cornell Lab Birds of the World uses "New World Sparrows" see here (perhaps behind a paywall)
  • IUCN/Birdlife International has Passerellidae New World Sparrows (based on HBW) see links here
  • the AOS (formerly AOU) has "New World Sparrows" - for example 58th Supplement here

I'll move this page.

Aa77zz (talk) 10:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I failed in my attempt to move the page. I've asked on the Bird project talk page here

-Aa77zz (talk) 11:04, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested the page move at Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests#Uncontroversial_technical_requests. —  Jts1882 | talk  12:13, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - now moved. - Aa77zz (talk) 17:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Authorship

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Sorry Cabanis was author of the subfamily. The family Passerellidae (this article) was introduced in:

Barker, F. K., Burns, K. J., Klicka, J., Lanyon, S. M., & Lovette, I. J. (2013). Going to extremes: contrasting rates of diversification in a recent radiation of New World passerine birds. Systematic Biology, 62(2), 298–320. http://doi.org/10.1093/sysbio/sys094

Please compare pronunciation Pasarellinae versus Passerellidae.--Earwig (talk) 16:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cabanis used Passerellinae for the subfamily and this establishes the name for all family group names (superfamily, family, subfamily and, I think, tribe). This is the ICZN Principle of coordination. Same applies to genus group names and species group names.
A more significant issue might be use of Passerellidae (Cabanis 1951) over Arremonidae (Lafresnaye 1841), which should have priority. But this is not our concern as we must follow reliable sources. —  Jts1882 | talk  14:44, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]