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inconsistency

This page seems to have an inconsistency. At the top it says

"He gained the popular favour by a judicious remission of taxation,"

but at the bottom

"The financial policy of Anastasius was so prudent and economical that it gained him a reputation for avarice and contributed to his unpopularity"

Obviously his policies could have changed but there is no mention of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob Palin (talk • contribs) 16:51, 17 January 2004

---These don't seem inherently inconsistent. He could have both reduced taxes and spending. That fits with what I recall from Bury's "Later Roman Empire"149.69.100.55 (talk) 18:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)zeke076[reply]

Coinage Reform

Could somebody please provide some verificaiton of this section? James084 20:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasius reformed the Byzantine tax system, which contributed to great wealth that was relatively undisturbed by Justin. This wealth is what allowed Justinian to convene military campaigns to retake the West and being a ambitious building program in Constantinople. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.242.215.171 (talk • contribs) 02:39, 21 February 2006

'monophysitic programme'

Not sure what this means. Does anyone know/can clarify in the article? fluoronaut 19:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article is quite right. As already pointed out by someone here above, Anastasius did both things. Still, he didn't actually 'reduce' fiscal burden, but cut on 'one' particular levy, the so-called 'chrysargyron', a gold[=chrysos] and silver[=argyros]-paid tax affecting artisans and small traders. He certainly succeded in leaving his successors a State with healthy financies. He's said (Procopius) to have left several thousand punds of gold in the treasury. As is the case at all times, some may have complained for such rigid economic policy. Some used later to call him 'dichoros', mocking him for the different colour of his eyes. But chalcedonian sources also had to recognise A.'s merits (Evagrius, actually our source for the 'popular favour'), despite the emperor's Monophysite faith. Thus some editing is probably needed in the first paragragraph rather than in the disputed section (that can be checked on Hendy's Byzantine Coinage, online on the site of Dumbarton Oaks). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.212.100.219 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 13 May 2007

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 20:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Anastasius I (emperor) → Anastasius I Dicorus – Propose move to known nickname, per other known emperors (such as Leo I the Thracian, or Basil I the Macedonian), instead of just simply '(emperor)'. TRAJAN 117 (talk) 08:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support, although IMO there is a danger of over-emphasizing the nicknames in violation of common usage: Basil I is almost always referred to as "Basil the Macedonian", but in cases like Leo I or Anastasius I, the nickname is far less known and omitted more often than not. Constantine ✍ 09:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Anastas Durrësaku

In Durrës city there is a street named "Anastas Durrësaku" in the honor of the emperor maps. Durrës is the birthplace of the emperor. This name should be mentioned in this article. Bunker92 (talk) 15:20, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Supposed descent from Constantine

The article currently claims Anastasius was son of a Pompeius and an Anastasia, who in turn was descended from the emperor Constantine I's daughter Constantina. I thought it strange that someone with an obscure background like Anastasius should have such illustrious ancestry. I found that this excerpt was added 12 years ago by a now banned user, who, using a sock account one year later, provided a reference to "Settipani" (not a reliable source that I know of). Two months ago, another source was added to support the claim. I checked this second source in question: it's new and self-published (FriesenPress), and there can be little doubt that the relevant excerpt is copied from Wikipedia.

A more reliable source, Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire (vol. 2, pp. 76–77, 898–899, 1314), reveals that Pompeius was in fact the nephew of Anastasius, and Anastasia (apparently unrelated to the emperor), Pompeius's wife. I could find nothing supporting this niece Anastasia's supposed descent from Constantine. I see no reason why the whole statement shouldn't be discarded entirely. Avis11 (talk) 02:25, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Settipani" is French genealogist Christian Settipani, "known for his work on the genealogy and prosopography of elites in Europe and the Near East." Dimadick (talk) 23:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I've heard of him. He's not a reliable source, if he's indeed making the claim in question. Again, Pompeius is the emperor's nephew, not father. Avis11 (talk) 00:05, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasius and the Red Sea Maritime Silk Road

Beginning in the 6th Century AD, silk was added to Coptic textiles. It was imported via the Red Sea maritime route, bypassing the Persians and arriving in Alexandria. Anastasius had made a treaty with the Ghassanids in 502 AD in order to ensure security. The gold used in trade came from Nubia. 70.107.119.177 (talk) 23:35, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Religious doctrine

This article claims that the Emperor Anastasius I Dicorus was a monophysite, but isn't he a miaphysite? The article even contradicts itself at one point, which one is the final correct version? ImperatorTsar (talk) 19:52, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Religious beliefs

I suppose this is relatively minor to most people, but the emperor’s religious views should really be cleared up. In some parts of the article, he is called a monophysite and in others, a miaphysite. My understanding is that mono- means one (alone) while mia- means one (compounded), thus making them different beliefs. I know Oriental Christians get touchy about the terminology here. I don’t know which version Anastasius personally subscribed to, so I won’t change it myself, but perhaps someone more educated than I can clear up the confusion. DavvieDarko (talk) 15:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]