Talk:Chemakum people

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Did you know... that the Chimakum tribe of Native Americans were wiped out in 1847 by a Suquamish war party led by Chief Seattle, for whom the city of Seattle was later named?

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Confusing and somewhat editorializing bit

I just took out this bit, from the history section:

Chimakum (Chemakum) Indians were a war-like tribe, and eventually paid penance for their constant looting and interference in tribal business between the Barclay Sound tribe and their friends, the Snohomish tribe, when the tribes created a bi-partisan attack on the Chimakum, effectively decimating them with exception of a small number of people. <ref>{{Cite book|title=With Pride in Heritage: history of Jefferson County|last=Jefferson County Historical Society|first=|publisher=|year=1966|isbn=|location=|pages=}}</ref>

And restored a simpler sentence that used to be used here:

In 1847 a disastrous conflict with the Suquamish devastated the Chimakum, effectively wiping them out.<ref name="buerge">{{cite web|url=http://content.lib.washington.edu/aipnw/buerge2.html|title=Chief Seattle and Chief Joseph: From Indians to Icons|last=Buerge|first=David M.|publisher=University of Washington|accessdate=11 July 2010}}</ref>

The removed bit seemed excessively editorialized, what with terms and phrases like "war-like tribe", and "paid penance for their constant looting...", as if they deserved being exterminated, men, women, and children. It was also confusing. What is the "Barclay Sound tribe"? Barclay Sound is on Vancouver Island and was territory of the Nuu-chah-nulth. If this is what is meant and is actually true, it needs to be much clearer. And, is this trying to say the Nuu-chah-nulth were "friends" with the Snohomish? Again, if this is true it needs to be clearer. And then this bit seems to say that the "Barclay Sound Tribe" and the Snohomish attacked and basically exterminated the Chimakum. Everything I've read about this says it was the Suquamish and Klallam who exterminated the Chimakum.

So I replaced this with a previous sentence to that effect. Since the bit I took out cites a source I've made this talk page section. I admit I do not have access to the source citied, but as far as I can tell it is a dubious source: With Pride in Heritage: history of Jefferson County, self-published in 1966. It might be a fine book for certain things, but I'm skeptical on its value for proto-historical Native American stuff. I could be wrong though, thus my making this talk page section. Pfly (talk) 04:15, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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