Talk:Dashavatara

Wrong Buddha

The Dashavatars does not include the founder of Buddhism(Gotama Buddha). It instead includes Sugata Buddha or just Lord Buddha who is a completely different person, being born in a different place(Gaya) as opposed to Kapilavastu and also having a different mother(Anjana) as opposed to Mayadevi. This Puranic Buddha is said to have been born into a family of Brahmins as opposed to the Shakyans that Buddhism's founder, Gotama Buddha was born into.

Unfortunately the Wiki Article, especially in the avatar's description section wrongly states the founder of Buddhism , Gotama Buddha to be one of the Dashavatars. Hoping someone would correct this inaccuracy.

Bodhiupasaka (talk) 07:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Gautama Buddha was incorporated into Vaishnavism as a response to the succes of Buddhism. "Sugata" is an epithet for this Buddha, and some traditions argue that this is a different Buddha. This is already explained in the text. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

There are numerous references in Gautama Buddha in Hinduism that agree that it is the founder of Buddhism who was included in the avatars. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Description of first image in article

The description says that the ninth avatar is Krishna, but in the image, it is written as Buddha.
Anish Viswa 08:21, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, you're right! Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

It is Parashurama, Sreerama, Balarama, Sree Buddha, Kalki as pe the image. Krishna is not there as per image. Artist may be considering Krishna = Vishnu.
Anish Viswa 10:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Images in lead

To solve this confusion among versions of Dashavatara, images of the three major versions followed by sects are added.
Vithoba and Jagannath are considered Krishna by sects outside Warkaris.
Vithobhas wife Rukhmai is Rukmini wife of Krishna and Jagannaths companions are Balabhadra (Balram) and Subhadra, Krishna's siblings.
Omitting versions will lead to generalisation.
The earliest available image is the ivory version in Delhi 2001:4490:48F:C275:0:0:0:1 (talk) 13:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Three images is too many for the lead. By all means include your information (and/or the image) in the body of the text, but it should not be the main image; the other two are far better and more illustrative. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 14:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

The deleted image is more authoritative and ancient. Still you want to press on your ISKCON POV pushing. 2001:4490:487:3913:0:0:0:1 (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Restored older image. Capitals00 (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Why? The other image is (slightly) older but it's in no way for illustrative or instructive. It's much harder to see the various avatars, and three images is still too many. I am reverting pending further discussion. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 15:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I am finding them illustrative enough. The IP editor has limited the lead to just 2 images now so your concern has been addressed at large. Capitals00 (talk) 02:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Please be specific, and mention the version-name ("Balarama-Krishna," etc.). Obviously, the age of the pictures/statues is not a relevant criterium; the fact that Krishna-Buddha is called the most used list is more relevant. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

most used list - POV pushing by this editor or not? 2001:4490:48F:31EF:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Huh? Giving the most used list the most prominent position seems like a good interpretation of WP:DUE:

Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to [...] prominence of placement

I fail to see how following Wiki-policies would be pov-pushing. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

I have no set opinion on one, two or three images in the lead, but I do notice that the statues are poorly visible, due to their size. I can imagine that some people prefer to have more images, to have various variants included, but for esthetical reasons I think one image should be preferred. A gallery could added, to have various lists included. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

From Amar Chitra Katha

This is a children's book published in the 80's as per this book the avatars (Dashavatar) of Vishnu are

1. Matsya

2. Kurma

3. Mohini

4. Varaha

5. Narasimha

6. Vamana

7. Parashurama

8. Rama

9. Krishna

10. Kalki

I have come across different variations like for example taking out Mohini and adding Balarama or Buddha to fill the space.

As per my understanding Balarama is avatar of Anant Nag and Buddha although mentioned in texts is not specified as an avatar of Vishnu whereas Mohini is specified as Vishnu's avatar.

49.207.5.35 (talk) 13:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Adi Sankara's Prapanchasara follows the Linga Purana which has Balarama and Krishna but not Buddha.

This is taken by the majority while Freemasons like Ravi Varma & Amar Chitra Katha Uncle Pai popularised the Buddha version 2001:4490:48B:4134:0:0:0:1 (talk) 06:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

About dashavatar

Actually Dashavatar concept is wrong as per Hindu scriptures, because Narasimha Avatar happened before kurma Avatar, King Bali Chakravarthy present in samudra manthan episode in where Kurma Avatar happened, Bali is grandson of Prahalada, Narasimha Avatar happened in Prahalada time, if Narasimha Avatar happened after kurma Avatar, then how Bali present in samudra manthan who is grandson of Prahalada, so Dashavatar concept is wrong, there are 24 incarnation of God Vishnu as per Vaishnava traditions of Hinduism. @Chronikhiles @Chariotrider555 @Classicwiki 2409:4071:248C:F6A2:24D2:5EF0:29FA:84A (talk) 13:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm curious, did you bother to actually read the article? Because none of what you've stated refutes the tradition that there are ten major incarnations of Vishnu according to the Puranas as well as mainstream Vaishnavism. Chronikhiles ^(talk) 14:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)