Talk:Death and state funeral of Mindon Min

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November 13, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the senior Burmese princes could not attend the funeral of King Mindon since they had all been arrested?

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Death and funeral of Mindon Min/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 15:10, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article, using the template below. I hope to complete the review over the next couple of days. Ganesha811 (talk) 15:10, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Htanaungg: this article now passes GA! Congrats to you and anyone else who may have worked on it. Ganesha811 (talk) 13:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Ganesha811, for your reviews in both articles – about four months ago and now. My heartfelt thanks especially go to Wikignome Wintergreen for the great work you've done – copy editing. Again here, as usual, without your work, there would be no such achievements. I really thank you both of you very much. Htanaungg (talk) 14:03, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! It's no wonder things go well when Ganesha is around to help out. A very useful ally. ;) Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 15:55, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	In my usual manner I have just gone through and made prose edits myself as needed. Please let me know if there are any changes you object to. Pass.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Pass, no issues.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Pass. Well-referenced.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Generally fine and the sources look reliable, but an English translation should be provided for the titles of all the sources. I've all provided. Source 15 (Desai p.2) appears in the wrong place - can it not go next to or be combined with source 14 (Desai p.1)? Assume I've fixed it. Issues fixed, pass.
	2c. it contains no original research.	Pass, no issues.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Pass, no issues.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Nothing else major found in other reliable sources. Pass.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Pass, no issues.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Pass, no issues.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	I see that a Wikignome recently gave the article a good once-over, but assuming their work is done, this is stable enough for GA. Pass.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Images are all available to use. Pass.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	The infobox caption should mention that it is 1903. Done mentioning. I assume there is no better image of King Mindon available? No photographs? I'm afraid there's no, since no photography developed in Burma at that time. Pass, issues fixed.
	7. Overall assessment.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:49, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that at the last minutes of King Mindon of Burma, a list of his annual 226-million gold kyat donations was read continuously? Source: Konbaung Set Yazawin Vol. 3 2004: p. 297
- ALT1: ... that senior Burmese princes could not attend the funeral of King Mindon since they all were arrested? Source: Konbaung Set Yazawin Vol. 3 2004: p. 315
- ALT2: ... that the Princess of Salin of Burma, who was designated the future Chief Queen, joined a Buddhist order of nuns as soon as her father was entombed? Source: Konbaung Set Yazawin Vol. 3 2004: p. 317

Improved to Good Article status by Htanaungg (talk). Self-nominated at 08:18, 17 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

– Newly promoted GA; long enough; neutral; fully cited; Earwig finds no copyright issues. I'm assuming good faith on the foreign-language sources. Exempt from the quid-pro-quo requirement (but this is your fifth DYK, so you'll need a QPQ for any future nominations). I think ALT1 is the most interesting, but all of the hooks are good to go. Thanks for writing this article! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:36, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 to T:DYK/P1

Changed "they all were" to "they had all been" at T:DYK/P1 for improved phrasing. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Succession crisis[edit]

It seems like there is important information missing from the article. The DYK tag mentions the arrest of the princes, but makes no reference to the reason for their arrest or the fact of their execution. The article also does not explain how Thibaw was selected as the successor, a particularly striking omission in light of the bloody succession crisis mentioned in the Mindon Min main article. John M Baker (talk) 11:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

+1 to the above points. I arrived at the article from today's OTD and am confused that there's only the one note about the senior princes being arrested. Htanaungg, can you shed any light here? Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 05:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]