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Fall of roman empire[edit]

Please give 150 words note on this topic 2407:D000:F:B785:798E:39A7:8232:7106 (talk) 12:57, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Account or exegesis of Gibbon[edit]

At this edit, having reread the above and got advice from literate friends, I have removed the exegesis of Gibbon - how Gruman analyzes what Gibbon wrote -and replaced it with a straightforward account of what Gibbon actually wrote. An exegete re-analyzing Gibbon is not desirable here, though I have moved their work to Historiography of the fall of the Western Roman Empire, where it may be considered useful. Richard Keatinge (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

Indi 102.249.4.74 (talk) 19:28, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2023[edit]

“Creeds were developed, but Christianity has never agreed upon an official version of its Bible or its doctrine; instead it has had many different manuscript traditions.”

This does not accurately reflect the cited source, and takes away from the larger topic at hand. Bias is present, and this passage should be removed. 2600:1700:AFE0:4C50:D9B1:7:9AE8:197 (talk) 04:13, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Callmemirela 🍁 13:53, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2024[edit]

Islam didn't exist before 610 so, how could that effect the wall of the Western Roman Empire in 476???

"The imperial system crumbled in the next couple of generations and then lost vast territories to the armies of Islam, a new proselytizing, exclusive religion that also looked forward to an imminent end time. The diminished and impoverished Byzantine rump state survived amid perpetual strife between and among the followers of Christianity and Islam.[1]" 73.6.255.218 (talk) 23:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harper isn't talking about the fall of the Western Roman Empire. As the first sentence of the section says, the four points are about "the transformation from the height of the empire to the early Middle Ages", i.e. from Pax Romana starting in the 1st century to the Early Middle Ages ending by the 10th century. The fourth point specifically pertains to the Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire, which did coexist with Islam. Liu1126 (talk) 00:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Harper 2017, p. 21.