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Mt. Eden

Mt. Eden is not a city. It is in Hayward and has been for many many years. Neanderthalprimadonna 00:23, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Other item(s) to consider

there is Lawrence Hall of Science in Berkeley Major pending 5000+ acreage development --Billymac00 (talk) 03:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the Culture Section

I cleaned up the the "culture" section because other notable bands come from the East Bay not just punk rock you silly emo kids... learn your heritage ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.239.206 (talk) 13:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Largest employers

found a few sites with recent stats to compare to the article: east bay economic development alliance. Another is Calif Employment Development Dept
I have not analyzed against article yet, though the edab site varies quite a bit from the wiki The former site shows:

UC 13736
US DOE 12485
AT&T 8500
Alameda County 7734
Contra Costa County 7574

[ Nummi disregarded ]

Kaiser 6606
Safeway 5720
Oakland USD 5689
World S&L 4389
Cooper Co Inc 4000
Summerville Mgmt 4000

--Billymac00 (talk) 03:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Outer and inner east bay

gsearch: 137 uses of outer east bay, 50 in google news; 263 uses of inner east bay, 67 in google news. not a common phrase, but may be useful. term is used in "san francisco bay area" article, and since the east bay article here is a major article, the article section on the east bay in the sfbay article should be a small stub (maybe just a referral?), so as not to duplicate data. maybe the city list can incorporate this concept as displayed in the sfbay article. (mercurywoodrose)66.80.6.163 (talk) 18:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are reliable sources for outer and inner. Here are a few:

Inventing the Dream: California Through the Progressive Era, by California State Historian Kevin Starr
Newcomer's Handbook for Moving to And Living in the San Francisco Bay Area
The transit metropolis: a global inquiry

There are many more! Binksternet (talk) 16:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Too many links

I deleted all the external links per WP:EL. None of them were solely about the East Bay, and the major ones such as EBMUD and AC Transit have their own articles. Binksternet (talk) 16:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What does 'inner' mean?

On the list of East Bay towns a number of them have the word 'inner' listed afterwards parenthetically. What is this supposed to mean? Thanks.

OK, prior to actually posting this I read the Cities intro paragraph I see where you are going. That said, having lived exclusively in 'inner' East Bay towns all my 53 years I've never hear that term, and as listed city-by-city, it makes no sense. (Many cities that touch the bay are not designated 'inner'). Suggest ditching the whole inner concept. --Fizbin (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adding race and progressive background under "Culture"

Hey! I will be adding notes on progressive and liberal movements that the East Bay is famous for. Since these have, and still do, affect our day-to-day lives in the Bay, I think it is an important addition to the Culture section of the Bay. Ksundaramurthy (talk) 21:41, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The East Bay also has a rich history. One of the revolutionary movements founded in Oakland was the Black Panther organization. ^[1] ^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] ^[6]^[7]

Ksundaramurthy (talk) 08:38, 7 December 2017 (UTC)KSundaramurthy[reply]

References

^ [Marchese, Beth-Ann. "Oakland." Let's Take a Look at California, 2017. Retrieved 05 October 2017.]
^ “Living for the City: Migration, Education, and the Rise of the Black Panther Party in Oakland, California.” Contemporary Sociology, vol. 42, no. 1, 2013, pp. 134–135. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/41722851.
^ Mulloy, D. J. "New Panthers, Old Panthers and the Politics of Black Nationalism in the United States." Patterns of Prejudice, vol. 44, no. 3, July 2010, pp. 217-238.
^ San Francisco Bay Area : Its People, Prospects and Problems. San Francisco : the associates, 1948., 1948.
^ "What We Don't Learn about the Black Panther Party — but Should. (Cover Story)." Rethinking Schools, vol. 32, no. 1, Fall2017, pp. 26-33.
^ Jones, Brenda Payton. "The BLACK PANTHERS STILL MAKING a DIFFERENCE." Ebony, vol. 62, no. 4, Feb. 2007, p. 190.
^ Murch, Donna. "The Campus and the Street: Race, Migration, and the Origins of the Black Panther Party in Oakland, CA." Souls, vol. 9, no. 4, Oct, 2007, pp. 333-345.

Requested move 14 May 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– Primary topic Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 06:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose multiple East Bays, where someone lives will determine what it means to them. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SNOW So many East Bays.--NapoliRoma (talk) 15:17, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This was a case of applying reverse bias on my part, it appears: since I live in the (SF) East Bay, I figured, "Of course the only East Bay I ever hear about is this one... ."

(Even after seeing Dohn's chart below, I'm still kinda shocked that with so many other bays in the world, we have a cardinal direction practically all to ourselves.)--NapoliRoma (talk) 22:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The San Francisco area gets 93% of pageviews, so easily meets primarytopic criterion #1. It's also easily the most historically significant "East Bay" via Google Books/Scholar. Hands-down primarytopic here. Dohn joe (talk) 16:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Dohn joe. Station1 (talk) 18:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Far more populated than the other East Bays, and pageviews show that East Bay (San Francisco Bay Area) gets a majority of hits: 6,506 out of 11,849 total last month (subtract out unrelated pages like Long Island and incomplete matches like East Bay Ray). In fact, most of the 5,343 other hits are coming from California State University, East Bay (4,731 hits), whose long-term significance is far less than the region from which its name is derived. The next highest viewed place actually called "East Bay" is East Bay (Rhode Island), with only 160 hits. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:49, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note also: according to the article, "With a population of roughly 2.5 million in 2010, it [the East Bay] is the most populous subregion in the Bay Area." Doesn't that make this a primary topic, considering how little importance the other items are? --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 00:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose It very depends on call it America-wiki or call it English-wiki. Please, hit rate should not be the primary criterion. One counter example, Cristiano Ronaldo currently have more page view than Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer), but clearly he is not the primary topic of Ronaldo and if asking people older than 30 who watched "Ronaldo the Phenomenon", they can tell one is Ronaldo one is Cristiano Ronaldo. I would accept people listing Google Ngram data as evidence if it existed. Matthew hk (talk) 09:16, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hit rate, or pageviews, is actually one of the main criteria for choosing a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which this article has, but I also referred you to Google Books and Scholar, where the California location also has most (not all, but a large majority) of the results. See here for Google Books and here for Google Scholar results. Dohn joe (talk) 15:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 00:11, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Just because there are other East Bays, doesn't mean one cannot be the primary topic. This is the primary topic. Calidum 14:30, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I've vacationed on six continents twice. The East Bay of the Bay Area is the primary meaning of East Bay. --Coolcaesar (talk) 20:28, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] [Marchese, Beth-Ann. "Oakland." Let's Take a Look at California, 2017. Retrieved 05 October 2017.]

[2] “Living for the City: Migration, Education, and the Rise of the Black Panther Party in Oakland, California.” Contemporary Sociology, vol. 42, no. 1, 2013, pp. 134–135. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/41722851.

[3] Mulloy, D. J. "New Panthers, Old Panthers and the Politics of Black Nationalism in the United States." Patterns of Prejudice, vol. 44, no. 3, July 2010, pp. 217-238.

[4] San Francisco Bay Area : Its People, Prospects and Problems. San Francisco : the associates, 1948., 1948.

[5] "What We Don't Learn about the Black Panther Party — but Should. (Cover Story)." Rethinking Schools, vol. 32, no. 1, Fall2017, pp. 26-33.

[6] Jones, Brenda Payton. "The BLACK PANTHERS STILL MAKING a DIFFERENCE." Ebony, vol. 62, no. 4, Feb. 2007, p. 190.

[7] Murch, Donna. "The Campus and the Street: Race, Migration, and the Origins of the Black Panther Party in Oakland, CA." Souls, vol. 9, no. 4, Oct, 2007, pp. 333-345.

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