Talk:Health and environmental effects of battery electric cars

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Wrong wordings, I think

"Under the provisionally agreed Euro 7 standard however electric cars would have a lower limit of non-exhaust particulates." It appears that Euro 7 standard is for traditional fossilfule powered vehicles, not for EV. ThomasYehYeh (talk) 00:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

@ThomasYehYeh: I have added a more official cite - please ping me if there is still a problem Chidgk1 (talk) 12:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

The first cite mentioned tyres but the second does not so now I am only sure about brakes being different between ICE and EV - if you know about Euro 7 tyres maybe you can add the info. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Recommend to delete

See also: Rare earth metals availability and supply security

I looked into Plug-in electric vehicle, and found there's no existence of "#Rare earth metals availability and supply security" anymore. Thank you for your kind attention. ThomasYehYeh (talk) 12:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@ThomasYehYeh I don’t really understand the problem here. Can you not edit the article yourself? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I can do that. Thank you for your response. ThomasYehYeh (talk) 23:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Problem with following wording

"According to The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the ability to recycle greenhouse gas of an electric vehicle is far more superior than a gasoline car" What did the writer mean about "recycle greenhouse gas"? ThomasYehYeh (talk) 23:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Huybn2 wrote that we can see from wikipedia:WikiBlame But rather than waiting for their reply I think you should just fix it. If you cannot fix it let me know and I will have a go Chidgk1 (talk) 13:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I moved the whole paragraph to below as I am not sure it is useful (for example the solar panels claim seems dubious):

Charging a vehicle using only renewable energy (e.g., wind power or solar panels) yields a very low carbon footprint. According to The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the ability to recycle greenhouse gas of an electric vehicle is far more superior than a gasoline car, which is a great selling point for people who are looking to invest into the future in return for the electric car's longevity and reduction in total greenhouse gas emissions. The emissions are generated exclusively by the production and installation of the generation system (see Energy Returned On Energy Invested.) A household with solar panels can feasibly produce enough energy to offset the power needed to charge an electric car, and thus (on average) make the electric vehicle produce net-zero emissions. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

References

Impact of cars on environment, society and urban planning

This article doesn't tell anything about the fact that EVs are still cars. Cars create low density, sprawling cities and their suburbs where you NEED a car and these kinds of development are worse for the environment than denser, urban neighbourhoods with transit and bikes. They kill people and animals directly and indirectly. They cost big amounts of national, municipal and private money. They are space inefficient, one Intercity train can take as much people as a few hundred cars. And the list goes on and on, from destruction of alternatives to cars to the destruction of urban and rural areas for cars. Kristo Mefisto (talk) 13:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps stuff that is common to EV and ICE cars should go in Effects of cars? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

There is also Effects of the car on societies Maybe you should ask at the automobiles wikiproject as the scope of the various articles is a bit unclear Chidgk1 (talk) 13:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Relevance of landfill and energy efficiency?

Why is it an environmental or health problem if motors are landfilled? Surely they must be a tiny percentage of total landfill? And why is energy inefficiency a problem in itself? As long as you use clean energy (such as solar power) who cares how much you use? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)