Jump to content

Talk:Fernando Primo de Rivera

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Untitled

[edit]

This article is a traslation of es:Fernando Primo de Rivera. But, the spanish article has copyright (there was an old problem about the licence of http://www.biografiasyvidas.com and we have several articles from that page). The article must be deleted.--FAR 09:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


If it's a copyright violation, the best course of action would be to reqrite the article, rather than delete it. Miguel Cervantes 14:52, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I think the problem is fixed now. Miguel Cervantes 15:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I´m a newbie in en:, and I didn´t know what was the correct template. I write in es.wikipedia.--FAR 20:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 May 2015

[edit]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Number 57 20:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Fernando Primo de Rivera, 1st Marquis of EstellaFernando Primo de Rivera – No need to append his title. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:48, 10 May 2015 (UTC) Srnec (talk) 06:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your opposition is wholly based on WP:NCNT and you never refuted my argument that the proposed move better follows the article titles policy. One is a policy, the other is a naming convention/guideline. Why should a guideline trump policy? Furthermore, WP:NCNT allows for exceptions where the title is not appended, such as Elizabeth II. So just mentioning WP:NCNT is not convincing. —seav (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Where does that convention suggest this title? There is only one famous Fernando Primo de Rivera in history and appending his marquisal title is only confusing. It makes the reader ask himself, "Is this the Fernando Primo de Rivera I'm looking for?" He is not well known in English by his title. Srnec (talk) 20:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Finally, many believe that the naming convention should simply be applied without exception for the sake of consistency. That argument is also valid, since consistency is indeed an objective of article naming per WP:AT, but it is not persuasive, because it does not address how the longer title conforms with the other four stated objectives of the naming policy: recognizability, ease of finding, preciseness and conciseness. In particular, the editors who are of this view do not generally address the strong empirical evidence that "Elizabeth II" is very likely the most recognizable name as envisaged by WP:AT, which as a policy takes precedence over a guideline-level naming convention. Also, this position does not take into account that occasional exceptions may apply to guidelines, per WP:GUIDES, and indeed they generally do not address at all under which circumstances an exception would be appropriate, thereby in effect treating the naming convention as a policy, which it is not.

As I stated in my support !vote above, the shorter title better meets the article titles policy and this should have a larger consideration over a guideline such as WP:NCNT. —seav (talk) 22:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Parents

[edit]

"Fernando Primo de Rivera was the son of Antonio Hermenegildo Primo de Rivera y Sobremonte and his wife Ana María de Torres Rovellas y Peña Vélez (1811–1865) ..."

According at least to the Spanish Wikipedia, his father is José Primo de Rivera. --INS Pirat (talk) 10:21, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]