Talk:Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance

Information

perhaps it is just me, but to say that this game follows right after "Birth by sleep" is not only presumptuous, but downright speculation. This Game is still in works, and is shrouded in mystery. For all we know it could be birth by sleep for the 3DS according to this interview: http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6266298/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-roundtable-qanda it's right towards the end but either way even that is still up in the air. (Juybuygo (talk) 16:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC))

• It doesn't matter if it's speculation or confirmed info by Nomura himself, unsourced or sourced, it will just keep getting deleted. Translated interviews are dismissed as self-published fancruft. People just like reverting edits for spite. I think people just want to keep this article as enigmatic as the game itself. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the article were like this fifty years after the game's release. Sources are not what count here. It's the users' opinions. If users vote that 2 + 2 = 5, it's the truth on Wikipedia. This is why the article is still lacking in all the info Nomura has revealed, and also why the article will remain like this forever. Tragic, isn't it? But since when has Wikipedia relied on logic? Jienum (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Instead of sourcing the Internet forum (which are not generally reliable for sources), how about somebody track down the Famitsu source itself and cite that? You can use footnotes or this talk page to provide the Japanese version and translation of the critical text portions that are being cited (see WP:NONENG for details). That should not be terribly hard to do. –MuZemike 23:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, right, as if that would help. You'd probably have no problem with it, but some spiteful user would revert it on the basis that "It's in Japanese, we need English confirmations." There just happens to be something wrong with most of the edits I make, even if they're OK. A good example was on the "Lingering Sentiment" page on the KH Wiki: for a while, they were putting a picture of Terra in his armour in the infobox, and I was arguing hard against it, because it had the incorrect weapon, proving it was not the LS, but as usual, nobody listened and I was threatened with blockage. Then, a few weeks later, someone else put up the VERY SAME argument, and they readily agreed with him. That's what I think the case is. If somebody else puts up exactly what I did on this page, it'll last forever. Jienum (talk) 11:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Calm down. Nobody hates you and is denying all your edits. You can't source a forum for an interview, or any sort of information. Cite the original source, Famitsu. The "it needs to be in English, not Japanese" argument is moot. If the source is good, we assume you know what you are talking about when you add it. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 00:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Found the same interview in a reliable source, an IGN article. Replaced.Tintor2 (talk) 00:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Mark of Mastery

The Recoded secret ending did indeed confirm that Yensid wants Sora and Riku to take a Mark of Mastery test, but there is nothing in there that links it to the plot of Kingdom Hearts 3D. Can someone point me (and the article, as that bit is still unsourced even if there is a source out there) to a RS connecting the two? Because as far as I can tell, it's still OR. 71.206.163.107 (talk) 02:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Hm....you're right, for the moment, we don't know if the mark of mastery is actually relating to this game. But maybe someone out here has a a ref. not so sure thoughBread Ninja (talk) 02:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

That's all I'm asking for. Everything on Wikipedia needs a source. 71.206.163.107 (talk) 13:12, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Already done some minutes ago.Tintor2 (talk) 13:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I've read re:coded Ultimania, it says that the Mark of Mastery is related to Kingdom Hearts 3D.Bread Ninja (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Then it should be added with the correct reference.Tintor2 (talk) 22:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not good with adding references, especially since i've read it online, i have no idea what page number it's at. But it's on heartstation.org. I'll see what i can do though.Bread Ninja (talk) 22:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Please avoid referencing with fansites.Tintor2 (talk) 22:21, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not talking about putting a link to the site, we just add that it's in the ultimania and what page number it's on.Bread Ninja (talk) 22:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Article name

The name of this article is wrong. Tetsuya Nomura recently confirmed in an interview that the name is "Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance". "3D" was an abbreviation of those three words. We don't say "3D" and "Dream Drop Distance" at the same time. Here are the links. [1] [2] Jienum (talk) 11:18, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Well i think it could either be, one or the other. sources have abreviated it as 3d. but just to be safew, we should just leave it as dream drop distance and drop the 3d. Bread Ninja (talk) 11:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I tried that, but I can't move it because the page already exists as a redirect to this one. Jienum (talk) 11:45, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

then you'll have to get an administrator, or manually moving by blanking this page and moving all info on the redirect. i wouldn't recommend it though.Bread Ninja (talk) 12:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Like he said, cut and pasting moves are NOT recommended. That separates the history and is just messy.

The page should probably stay at "3D: Dream Drop Distance" for multiple reasons. First, the logo of the page says "3D: Dream Drop Distance". Second, some people don't know that "3D" got changed to "Dream Drop Distance", and may get confused. Having both lets readers know they are at the right page. Thirdly, "Kingdom Hearts 3D" is the title. "Dream Drop Distance" is the subtitle. Until the name gets revealed to have changed officially better then a rough translation of a Japanese page, it should stay here. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 15:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, whatever's best then. I was just bringing it to people's attention. 88.16.221.193 (talk) 17:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

In the introductory paragaraph of the article, I think that we should call the game Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance (Kingdom Hearts 3D). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.240.51.52 (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Plot...ugh

Does anybody else think that the storyline is getting kind of convoluted with all the intermediate games and prequels and retcons and whatnot? 205.133.166.81 (talk) 02:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The series has a complicated storyline with all the indepth backgrounds of the various characters. Although some would say they are just stalling for the release of KHIII, and wanting to prolong the development as much as possible. Although Wikipedia is not a forum, and talkpages should be focused on the development of the article. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 03:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Added warning up on the project. From this point on, any discussions not intended to improve this page will be deleted.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Release

Should the release of the game also add the US as being tba and not only Japan? 68.197.232.80 (talk) 19:31, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

There is no confirmation that the game will be released anywhere but Japan. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 19:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

now there is http://www.kingdomhearts3dgame.com/— Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.70.16.57 (talk • contribs)

Added External Links

Added external links to the Premire Trailer, as well the short video of the demo released today. Will add the trailer from the TGS when released as well. 82.25.191.78 (talk) 16:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Neku

Neku appears in here,[[3]]CHECK IT OUTTA!Can you guys add the picture here?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.62.59 (talk) 00:14, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

I would imagine not. It's already stated in the article text, and an image of him in the game wouldn't add anything beyond what's already stated. Reach Out to the Truth 17:34, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it should not be added. It wouldn't add anything to the article, and from what I've understood, he's going to be a relatively small part of the game anyways, isn't he? Sergecross73 msg me 19:36, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

[Dream Drop Distance]

Why do we say "Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance", rather than "Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance]"? Isn't that the official name given by Square? http://release.square-enix.com/na/2011/12/20_01.html DChiuch (talk) 14:09, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

for one, we can't use those typpe of brackets in the tiles. A good example would be C (anime). Another is that they are interchangeable, so to express both we use the colon. However once more reliable sources come we can determine whether to keep "3D" or "Dream Drop Distance" or both.Lucia Black (talk) 14:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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new external link

should we put this in? http://na.square-enix.com/kh3d/ it's the u.s. site but it's a lot lower quality — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.70.16.57 (talk) 16:00, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

"...all the Disney-based worlds will be brand new..."?

In the Plot subject and Setting subtopic, the article states "...all the Disney-based worlds will be brand new...". This might contradict the trailer released today that shows Ursula as a boss battle. Is there any sources that confirms that "...all the Disney-based worlds will be brand new..."? If so, that probably means that she is a boss battle in a world other than the little mermaid world. If not, the presence of Ursula in the game might disprove this statement. We'll probably have to wait until the Japanese version of the game is released before either possibility can be confirmed naturally. Permafry42 (talk) 23:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Lea's Keyblade

I know that Lea reveals that he has a Keyblade in this game, and I'm certain it will continue to factor into the series at a later point. But in the grand scheme of this game's story alone, I think the "Story" section should summarize events that are largely circumstantial to the advancement and understanding of the major plot at hand, and that is Sora and Riku's Mark of Mastery exam and the interference of Xehanort and his various incarnations. The reveal of Lea's Keyblade currently only seems circumstantial to the sidestory featuring Lea in the game, reference of which I believe should be limited to sections detailing the character's role in the story, particularly Axel's section in the Organization XIII page. Of course, I suggest we should wait for more details of the game to surface, such as translations of scenes involving Lea—especially the reveal of his Keyblade—before taking any further action, unless such translations already exist beyond my knowledge. User:Immblueversion (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree with that. Lea/Axel's revelation that he can use a Keyblade has no impact on this game's plot. On a sidenote, incivility should be avoided.Tintor2 (talk) 23:21, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

On a similar note, people are evidently compelled to add mention to the fact that Sora reunites with his Dream Eater companions at the end of the game. Yes, it happens in the game, but is it relevant? Was it explicitly stated that the Dream Eaters are going to continue to accompany him? Or is it just a reunion of no major circumstance? And if it is relevant and should happen, why put it after the mention of the secret ending when it's not a part of it? If it's going to be mentioned, it'd might as well be as part of Sora's embarkment of a new journey. User:Immblueversion (talk) 17:51, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Iwata asks source

Here. Enjoy! Axem Titanium (talk) 18:52, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks but the interview is more about the series as a whole and the creation of the first game.Tintor2 (talk) 22:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Australian release

Hey I don't know if this is important but the Australian Release date (six days after europes) isn't listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.86.239 (talk) 05:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Article title again

Surprisingly, I find the current title to be the best; technically it is both "Kingdom Hearts 3D" (websites) and "Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance" (soundtrack), and the websites more or less write the title combined anyway (best of all, most other websites are going to use this). However, I think we need a note on the brackets like with C; somehow, putting the meaning of a shorthand term in brackets manages to be far less strange than just slapping on a colon and calling it a day. And yes, I do consider myself important enough to say such things, hah. 174.111.81.238 (talk) 03:11, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. Dream Drop Distance should not be in brackets. That seems way more strange to me. Subtitles for games are separated by a colon. Thats just how it works. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 00:20, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Wouldn't the full subtitle be "3D Dream Drop Distance"? In an early interview, Nomura pointed that it could be read as both "Kingdom Hearts 3D" and "Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance." While third parties sources like gamerankings use colons, the official English Square Enix site uses Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance]. However, for now I think we should keep using colons.Tintor2 (talk) 01:59, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

regarding the dive mode

what needs to be done to open the gate is different from dive to dive. while stars is collected in the first dive the second dive(if the worlds are taken according to battle level) involves fighting enemies.(sora need to kill 15 enemies while riku must fight a boss.) i dont have any further knowledge though because i havent gotten farther in the game yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

About the Remake version

Do you think KH: Dream Drop Distance going come on remake version just like KH RE:COM and KH RE:Coded ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.138.158.23 (talk) 06:50, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Extremely unlikely. This is a game for a current gen console that isn't horribly made. CoM was made for GBA, and Coded was for Mobile devices, so they both needed to be significantly upgraded. It is unlikely that any game in the future will merit a "Re:version". _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 13:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

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Prose

• This sentence is a bit confusing: "Drop Points, which are earned by defeating enemies and completing optional objectives, can be spent on bonuses that can be used by the next until their next drop, such as a slower Drop Gauge or increased attack or defense, with leftover Drop Points converted to Munny."
• The word "various" is used a lot.
• Another awkward sentence: "Nomura also anticipated the longest cutscene from the entire series as he wanted to reveal the intentions from the antagonists Xemnas and Ansem, also emphasizing the importance of Axel and the young Xehanort, unidentified by that of the announcement, in the story."
• Can the music section become a subsection of Development? It's kind of small.
• What does this mean?: "The game debuted at the top of Media Create's sales charts, selling 213,579 copies during its first week, which is the equivalent to the 64% of Stock."

Coverage

• The Gameplay section is just a touch too long and detailed. Can it be trimmed a bit? Not every action in the game needs to be spelled out in such detail.
• The Setting section begins with "Dream Drop Distance is a continuation of the events shown in the epilogue of Kingdom Hearts Re:coded." Can you give just a sentence or two about those events?
• Terra, Aqua, and Venta are mentioned at the beginning of the Story section. Who are they? Assume the readers are completely unfamiliar with Kingdom Hearts.
• Reception should be expanded to include more opinions from reliable sources, especially in the West.
• The Versions and Merchandise section can probably be cut out. Most of its info, like the release dates, can fit into Development. The prices of products are not particularly important. There is also a lot of Japanese characters, which isn't necessary.

References

• No need for inlines in the lead or infobox.

Images

• Can we get an image to illustrate gameplay?

Overall the article is decent. I went through and cleaned up some of the prose, but it still needs some work as listed above. — Mr. V (t – c) 02:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

@Vantine84: Hey, I'm not involved with this article, but I'm doing the review for the other Kingdom Hearts article at WP:GAN, and I was informed on that review that the nominator for this article has been inactive for a couple of months. You may want to check and see if someone at Wikipedia:WikiProject Square Enix would be willing to pick this one up and make the necessary revisions. Thanks, Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 17:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

He did, I'll do this one too after I take care of yours. --PresN 19:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Starting to get to this- did the Prose concerns. Pulled both the cutscene statement and the Stock statement; both are honestly just trivia (the Stock statement was saying that the game sold X number of copies in the first week, which was 64% of the number of copies that were shipped to stores. What does that percentage actually mean? Absolutely nothing. --PresN 21:33, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Shortened the gameplay section by a bit; sorry for dropping this for a while. --PresN 20:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Did the next two; only the reception and versions bullet points left. --PresN 19:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Merged versions and merchandise into development, dropping some of the extraneous information, and added in a gameplay image. Sorry this is taking so long. --PresN 23:29, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

And expanded the reception section, so that should be all of it. --PresN 23:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Satisfied! — Mr. V (t – c) 22:23, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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Publisher

The article states that this game has been published by Nintendo in Europe and Australia. However, I could not find any evidence of that. Am I missing something? --Marcodpat (talk) 11:50, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Guess the GameSpot article changed across the years. I found this article with the release info but I don't know if we should use a better source.Tintor2 (talk) 14:44, 19 November 2021 (UTC)