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Requested move 4 May 2020
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Please comment at Talk:List of districts in India#RM discussion — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Dakshina Kannada → Dakshina Kannada district – As per, WP:CONSISTENT with all other articles of the districts in India. Hemant DabralTalk 03:23, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Oppose CommentAgree- Hi Hemant DabralTalk,
There is no need to suffix 'district' to Dakshina Kannada.The suffix only becomes necessary when there is a city/town with the same name. In such scenarios, the 'district' suffix is required to avoid ambiguity.- Examples include Mysore/Mysore district, Dharwad/Dharwad district, Kolar/Kolar district, Bidar/Bidar district, Ernakulam/Ernakulam district, Coimbatore/Coimbatore district, etc. and several others. Here, there are cities/towns with those names as well. So the 'district' suffixes are added to their corresponding district names.
- But, in scenarios like Dakshina Kannada, Uttara Kannada, etc., there is no city/town with these names.
Hence the renaming and move to 'Dakshina Kannada district' are inappropriate and not required.
- Thanks and Cheers,
- Aviator423 (talk) 07:34, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Aviator423, it would mean that we'll have to move hundreds of articles back to their "name only titles" (excluding district suffix) also, since there are hundreds of districts in India with unique names and having no other location/city named after their name. For example: East Champaran district, West Champaran district, East Singhbhum district, West Singhbhum district, East Sikkim district, West Sikkim district, North Sikkim district, South Sikkim district, North Goa district, South Goa district, East Garo Hills district, West Garo Hills district, East Khasi Hills district, West Khasi Hills district, East Jaintia Hills district, West Jaintia Hills district, East Karbi Anglong district, West Karbi Anglong district, Ri Bhoi district, Dima Hasao district, Tehri Garhwal district, Pauri Garhwal district, Udham Singh Nagar district, Bastar district, Lahaul and Spiti district, Sirmaur district, North and Middle Andaman district, South Andaman district, Nicobar district, Uttar Dinajpur district, Dakshin Dinajpur district, Purba Medinipur district, Paschim Medinipur district, Purba Bardhaman district, Paschim Bardhaman district, Kutch district, Lakhimpur Kheri district, Cachar district, Shaheed Bhagat Singh Nagar district, Gautam Buddh Nagar district and many many more. 07:17, 4 May 2020 (UTC) That comment by Hemant Dabral [1]
- If Wikipedia follows the suffix convention, then you may go ahead with the rename and move of this district. But linguistically, the 'district' suffix is redundant when no other location/city/town exists with the district names.
- Aviator423, it would mean that we'll have to move hundreds of articles back to their "name only titles" (excluding district suffix) also, since there are hundreds of districts in India with unique names and having no other location/city named after their name. For example: East Champaran district, West Champaran district, East Singhbhum district, West Singhbhum district, East Sikkim district, West Sikkim district, North Sikkim district, South Sikkim district, North Goa district, South Goa district, East Garo Hills district, West Garo Hills district, East Khasi Hills district, West Khasi Hills district, East Jaintia Hills district, West Jaintia Hills district, East Karbi Anglong district, West Karbi Anglong district, Ri Bhoi district, Dima Hasao district, Tehri Garhwal district, Pauri Garhwal district, Udham Singh Nagar district, Bastar district, Lahaul and Spiti district, Sirmaur district, North and Middle Andaman district, South Andaman district, Nicobar district, Uttar Dinajpur district, Dakshin Dinajpur district, Purba Medinipur district, Paschim Medinipur district, Purba Bardhaman district, Paschim Bardhaman district, Kutch district, Lakhimpur Kheri district, Cachar district, Shaheed Bhagat Singh Nagar district, Gautam Buddh Nagar district and many many more. 07:17, 4 May 2020 (UTC) That comment by Hemant Dabral [1]
- If Wikipedia follows the suffix convention, then you may go ahead with the rename and move of this district. But linguistically, the 'district' suffix is redundant when no other location/city/town exists with the district names.
- Also, I am now not opposing the rename and move decisions.
- Cheers, Aviator423 (talk) 07:31, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with the renaming. Dakshina Kannada could be the name for a region for someone who doesn't already know. Adding "District" makes that clearer. C1MM (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi C1MM, there isn't any region other than the district having the name 'Dakshina Kannada'. It is unique. But I will agree with the move and renaming. Aviator423 (talk) 05:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with the renaming. Dakshina Kannada could be the name for a region for someone who doesn't already know. Adding "District" makes that clearer. C1MM (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose
but suggest relisting. More to this than meets the eye. For example it's stated [2] that Sirmaur district could simply be renamed Sirmaur. Not that simple at all, that would overwrite a three-way DAB. Andrewa (talk) 11:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Andrewa: See Talk:List of districts in India#Discussion regarding the titles of the districts. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 21:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]There are a number of similar RM proposals which I have suggested [3] [4] might be best all discussed together here. Andrewa (talk) 12:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Andrewa: There is a discussion at the Talk:List of districts in India page regarding this matter. You can post your comment there. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 21:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- OK, let's discuss there. What do you suggest we do with the many individual RMs you have proposed? My suggestion is to close them all as not moved pending the outcome of that discussion, and open reopen any as a multi-move as necessary. Andrewa (talk) 02:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- See Talk:List of districts in India#Outstanding RMs. Andrewa (talk) 03:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Move discussion in progress
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Requested move 21 June 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 03:25, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Dakshina Kannada → Dakshina Kannada district – standard naming of districts in India. Eg: Bangalore Urban district, Bellary district, Kodagu district Dhruv edits (talk) 20:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:02, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). DanCherek (talk) 18:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- This one may need a discussion, given previous RMs at Talk:Dakshina Kannada#Requested move 4 May 2020 and Talk:List of districts in India#RM discussion. DanCherek (talk) 21:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at Talk:List of districts in India#RM discussion it seems ok to move to me. -Kj cheetham (talk) 09:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. The previous RM at Talk:List of districts in India#RM discussion had no consensus to move this, so it isn't uncontroversial. Also, I Oppose it we the qualifier is unnecessary and this is the WP:CONCISE title. — Amakuru (talk) 11:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Seems I didn't read it properly originally. I agree with Amakuru mostly, but given Category:Districts of Karnataka there is potential for this to be moved for WP:CONSISTENT. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:54, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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