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Alleged vs factual

I have added the word allegedly (or similar) in a number of places in this article as the 'facts' in the case are all based on hearsay. Leah Stephens was definitely murdered, but no one knows what happened to Deane Wade Fuller-Sandys as his body was never found. No forensic evidence of murder by Maney or Stone was ever presented at court. Kiwimanic (talk) 19:46, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New title required

The title of this page is 'Lanoch Road murders.' The Crown has agreed this cas has been a miscarriage of justice and that Gail Maney will not be retried. In other words, there was no murder at Lanoch Road. A new title is required for the page. I suggest: The wrongful conviction of Gail Maney. Kiwimanic (talk) 07:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest Murder of Leah Stephens per WP:CRIME, WP:KILLINGS, and WP:MURDEROF. Stephens was murdered, allegedly at Larnoch Road, but we don't need to specify the location in the title. Muzilon (talk) 08:59, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with that is the article is not about Leah Stevens. Its about a miscarriage of justice involving four different defendants. As per Wrongful conviction of Alan Hall... Kiwimanic (talk) 04:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is indeed a rather complex case involving four defendants, one definite murder, and one disappearance that may not have been a murder. It is possible that Stone will face a retrial, and may even be found guilty again. So, I'm not sure that a title emphasizing Maney's name only is appropriate. (Cf. Murder of Mallory Manning and Murder of Harvey and Jeannette Crewe, where the murder convictions were later overturned.) Muzilon (talk) 09:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree. We should probably wait till the Court of Appeal makes its decision and see what is left so to speak... Kiwimanic (talk) 21:35, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]