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Break up into smaller tables by year?
[edit]It might be helpful for navigational purposes to split the one huge table into ten smaller ones, so it is easier to sort through and also easily identify the number-ones for each year as well as the entire 90s decade. Thanks. --Wolfer68 (talk) 02:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- The problem with that of course is that it would destroy the sorting functionality of the list...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Dates don't consist
[edit]I've just noticed that some of the dates on this article and the articles relating to the individual songs don't consist - particularly some of the 1999 ones. This would be worth investigating, I think. As this has been a featured list I'm assuming the dates on here are correct. Any thoughts? TheRetroGuy (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- I haven't checked but some of them might be week-ending dates rather than the day the chart was announced, as I'm sure the week-ending date is used in some sources. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- Makes sense I guess and explains why the articles don't appear to be consistent. The one in particular I noticed was The Millennium Prayer which appears to have a combination of week beginning and week ending dates in the succession box (4 December 1999 having been a Saturday and, in which case, the end of the week that began on 28 November). However, the article says the song was at #1 for twe weeks, suggesting that if it was succeeded by Westlife on Sunday 19 December the date it reached the top should be 5/11 December. I'll check this out when I get a chance. TheRetroGuy (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- As the editor who got this article to FL status, I can confirm that it uses the date when the song actually got to number 1, i.e. the Sunday when the chart was announced. Originally it used "week ending" dates but I got told to change this during the FLC. I'll go back through and double check they're all correct, though.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Makes sense I guess and explains why the articles don't appear to be consistent. The one in particular I noticed was The Millennium Prayer which appears to have a combination of week beginning and week ending dates in the succession box (4 December 1999 having been a Saturday and, in which case, the end of the week that began on 28 November). However, the article says the song was at #1 for twe weeks, suggesting that if it was succeeded by Westlife on Sunday 19 December the date it reached the top should be 5/11 December. I'll check this out when I get a chance. TheRetroGuy (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- It would be more correct to show the day the chart was announced rahter than week-ending date (of the chart). An example: Believe (1998 best-selling single by Cher) is a new entry at the top of the Chart on 25 October 1998 (the week-ending date when singles have been already sold and the chart is announced) and NOT on 31 October 1998 (the week-ending date of the current chart) as this list is mistakenly showing. My thesis is confirmed on the official chart website. We should fix all dates of this list. --Morbius (talk) 20:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
The official charts are NOT using week begining here https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/all-the-number-1-singles__7931/#1990s DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 18:46, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Number ones running over the new year.
[edit]There really should be a rule as to where these are placed. For example, I Will Always Love You got to #1 on November 29, 1992, and therefore was #1 in 1992 (therefore should be placed in 1992), however, it wasn't beaten until February 7, 1993, and therefore, it was also #1 in 1993. The way I think of it, there are two ways we could go about it two ways -- have the #1 in the year that it became number 1 (i.e. 1992), UNLESS the date it became #1 is December 29 or later in the year, and therefore the majority of that week would be in the new year, and it could be placed in 1993 or whatever the year is: For example:
Chef | "Chocolate Salty Balls (P.S. I Love You)" | 27 December 1998 | 1 |
Artist | Single[nb 1] | Reached number 1[nb 1] |
Weeks at number 1[nb 1] |
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Steps | "Heartbeat / Tragedy" | 3 January 1999 | 1 |
Because the week beginning December 27, 1998 was mostly in 1998 (5 days in 1998, 2 days in 1999), it is placed in 1998, however: Consider this:
Elvis Presley | "It's Now or Never" | 3 November 1960 | 8 |
Artist | Single[nb 1] | Reached number 1[nb 1] |
Weeks at number 1[nb 1] |
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Cliff Richard & The Shadows | "I Love You" | 29 December 1960 | 2 |
Note how although I Love You reach number one on December 29, 1960, the majority of that week was in 1961 (in this case, only 3 days out of 7 were in 1960). Otherwise, if you put the #1 in the year it reached number 1, then, if it was say #1 for about 7 weeks, and became #1 on 31 December, and was knocked off on 18 February the following year, then putting it on the year of the 31 December would be somewhat pointless since it'd would've only been that year for literally 5 hours as of the #1 being announced, and pretty much an entire 7 weeks in the next year.
The OTHER way, is to split it up so that it has 5 weeks from November 29, 1992 - January 3, 1993 in the 1992 section, and as the first #1 in the 1993 section, as 5 weeks from January 3 - February 7, 1993, like this:
Artist | Single[nb 1] | Reached number 1[nb 1] |
Weeks at number 1[nb 1] |
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Whitney Houston | "I Will Always Love You" | 29 November 1992 | 5 |
Artist | Single[nb 1] | Reached number 1[nb 1] |
Weeks at number 1[nb 1] |
Whitney Houston | "I Will Always Love You" | 3 January 1993 | 5 |
2 Unlimited | "No Limit" | 7 February 1993 | 5 |
--The Ultimate Koopa (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- The most logical thing seems to be to list the number one under the year it first made number one (there are no exceptions like majority of week in a year etc.) It is simple, clear cut and I've implemented it. Hopefully that solves the problem. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
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Dates
[edit]Every date on here is out by a week compared to the source? What is that all about? WilliamF1two (talk) 15:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed dates to match OCC, which is always the Saturday at the end of the week. A couple of No.1's move onto the next year, which again matches the OCC years. I know we all listen to the chart on Sunday, but it is always dated the following Saturday - check the Official charts page. This is consistent with the pages for 1980s and 1970s. Other pages should be made to match this and I will work forward through the decades.Btljs (talk) 22:24, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Adverts selling hit records
[edit]Perhaps in the lead we could also mention a good few of these number ones were hits because they had featured in television advertisements? "Should I Stay or Should I Go", "Young at Heart", "Inside", "Spaceman", "Flat Beat", and to extent "Bombastic" (all of these bar "Young at Heart" were Levi's adverts) If I am not mistaken this hadn't happened before the 1990s.--TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 03:02, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing (In Perfect Harmony) 1971, was from a Coke advert before it was actually a hit at all. I Heard It Through the Grapevine was used in a Levi advert in 1985. There have been a fair few hits that didn't quite make number 1 as well like When a Man Loves a Woman, Wonderful World, Piece of my Heart etc. and not forgetting the Stranglers' Always the Sun (just kidding). Btljs (talk) 07:35, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- Ah OK. I just thought it could be of note still because it only happened twice before. There was also "The Joker" in 1990 as well.--TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 17:27, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- There were noticeably more songs from advertisements and films, particularly at the beginning of the decade. Late 1990 has "The Joker", "Blue Velvet" by Bobby Vinton, "Take My Breath Away" by Berlin, "Show Me Heaven" by Maria McKee and "Unchained Melody" by the Righteous Brothers pretty much all in the chart at the same time. I think it's in part due to low sales during this period. GNU/Andrew (talk) 15:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Ah OK. I just thought it could be of note still because it only happened twice before. There was also "The Joker" in 1990 as well.--TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 17:27, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Artists by weeks at number 1
[edit]Section is OK, but please get rid of the flags. This isn't Eurovision. Btljs (talk) 14:48, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
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The Clash / Big Audio Dynamite II
[edit]Multiple sources state that the "7 re-issue of "Should I Stay or Should I Go" also came with Big Audio Dynamite's "Rush" as AA printed on it. So that means it's a double hit, right? I know that CD singles were more popular in the '90s than vinyl, but that technically does make both songs a hit. Can anybody clarify this? ChewNaChunkx (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2019 (UTC) Looks like a B-Side to me not a double a side to me DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 18:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Fatboy Slim
[edit]The caption at the side of the article says "Fatboy Slim achieved commercial success in the 1990s, with several hits prior to his only number one single". However, Fatboy Slim's real name is Norman Cook, and so he was also #1 in 1990 with Beats International and in 1986 with The Housemartins. Maybe it would be clearer if this stated it was his only *solo* number one? GNU/Andrew (talk) 15:54, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed, and I've changed the caption accordingly. Richard3120 (talk) 22:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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