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Opening delayed to June 2018

"The Bay Area Rapid Transit stations in Milpitas and Berryessa are no longer set to open in December, six months ahead of schedule. Instead, they are projected to open as originally planned for passenger service by June 2018, according to the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority." http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/10/bart-stations-in-milpitas-and-berryessa-wont-open-early-after-all/ By ALIYAH MOHAMMED, SJ Mercury Bay Area News Group, August 10, 2017—166.107.163.254 (talk) 02:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Classification

I find only two weak sources classifying it as "underground". Having visited the station today, I can say only the BART platforms are below grade, with the rest of the station at-grade or elevated. I'm unsure it's due weight to classify the BART statoin as underground.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:06, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The system facts would seem to count this station as a surface station. I definitely think it cannot be classified as "underground" anymore.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:59, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps “below grade” would be a better description. —RickyCourtney (talk) 20:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is probably better than "Underground", especially as the platforms are in a trench, not a true tunnel, with the roof directly above the tracks. I'll change it if there aren't any objections.--Jasper Deng (talk) 20:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguator

@JasonHockeyGuy: Can you elaborate on why you moved this article from Milpitas station to Milpitas (BART Station)? The convention is to name rail stations in the form "X station" unless there needs to be additional disambiguation due to naming conflicts. But there's only one Milpitas station that serves both BART and VTA light rail. Unless you intend to split out a new article about the VTA light rail station specifically, I think we should move this article back to Milpitas station. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 18:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mxn: There's simply no valid reason to do this, so I undid the move. At the least, WP:BRD will be invoked here.--Jasper Deng (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Layout diagram

@RickyCourtney: I removed the station layout diagram because it was wholly redundant to the prose and the layout template. That's in line with previous discussions on WP Trains, where consensus has been to remove layout diagrams unless there's a particular reason (like a complicated or unusual layout) that makes them necessary. I don't see such a reason here - is there one that I'm missing? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535: I would argue that this station has a complicated/unusual layout as it is one of the few stations in the Bay Area that has an interconnection between systems (BART and VTA Light Rail). I think it helps to visualize the vertical layout of the station (as compared to the horizontal layout in the other box). This page seems as worthy of having a layout diagram as the 19th Street/Oakland and Oakland Coliseum station pages. I'll also point out that the Oakland Coliseum page recently was approved as a good article with a layout diagram. --RickyCourtney (talk) 19:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have rewritten the prose of the layout section to be more clear and accurate. The layout diagram takes up a huge amount of screen space (almost half of a standard laptop screen), entirely duplicates information elsewhere in the article, and isn't representative of the actual horizontal layout whatsoever. I understand your points, but the layout doesn't belong here. (Re Coliseum: Those layouts were added to the article by a particularly combative editor over my objections.) Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jacobthetrain and Airport Connector

These routes are part of the station and its inclusive of what this place offers. I am not sure why travel guide was labeled here but we need to have all connections as part of the station info as its for readers who look here. Would you imagine that these searches get higher ranked when people search about WP versus the actual transit agency themselves which almost is very vague.

Everyone's thoughts and opinions count. 107.216.116.49 (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I repeat: Wikipedia is not a travel guide. It's not an airport access guide. It's not here to save you the miniscule effort of using the VTA website. And thus far, you have vandalized this page out of spite, and vandalized my user talk page, which is not exactly an auspicious start. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:54, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]