Talk:Napoleon
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Infobox[edit]
I really think we need to have another conversation about the family members in the infobox. It’d be good to have another talk about it with more editors involved. The “consensus” to remove valuable information from the infobox for no valid reason is being upheld by the same 2 or 3 editors, and those same few revert any edits that go against their “consensus.” I would give a detailed explanation as to why I think the family info removed should be restored but I’ve already done so in my previous conversation in the talk page, which went nowhere. I’m bringing it up again because I believe most editors would agree to restore the info, but perhaps aren’t aware of this discussion or aren’t passionate enough about it to create the conversation, I’m hoping more editors will get involved to change this ridiculous infobox. Kind regards, Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 19:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Is the information covered in other sections of the article, or only in the infobox? Dimadick (talk) 16:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I’m speaking about the removal of Napoleons parents and children from the infobox. Those are key facts of Napoleon that should be included in the infobox. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 18:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree I think it's a bit unreasonable to exclude his parents and progeny from the Infobox, considering Napoleon's quite important for the late Bonaparte dynasty. I agree to to list his children and parents in the infobox. I know that Aemilius Adolphin prefered the minimalist approach, but I agree with Robertus, legend, Векочел, and others that it's quite important for the infobox. 128.62.179.178 (talk) 20:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- I’ve given up trying to change the infobox. Hopefully one day another editor will start up the conversation again as this infobox quite frankly, is ridiculous. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 23:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree I think it's a bit unreasonable to exclude his parents and progeny from the Infobox, considering Napoleon's quite important for the late Bonaparte dynasty. I agree to to list his children and parents in the infobox. I know that Aemilius Adolphin prefered the minimalist approach, but I agree with Robertus, legend, Векочел, and others that it's quite important for the infobox. 128.62.179.178 (talk) 20:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- I’m speaking about the removal of Napoleons parents and children from the infobox. Those are key facts of Napoleon that should be included in the infobox. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 18:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Early career[edit]
Hello all
I have corrected and slightly expanded the garbled account of Napoleon's return to Corsica to make it easier to follow. I have added a suitable subheading. I have summarised and moved the discussion of Napoleon's change of name to later in the narrative (ie his marriage to Joséphine) where it logically belongs.
Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 00:54, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Early life[edit]
Hello all
I have summarised the content to reduce repetitious information. I have made some corrections of factual errors. I have checked all the citations and replaced dubious content and sources (such as Youtube videos) with more accurate content with reliable sources based on recent scholarship. I have changed the order of information to make it more logical and easier to follow.
Happy to discuss Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:00, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Changing the page image[edit]
Dear All,
Does anyone know how to prevent the page image from being set as 'Invisible_Square.svg' ..? It doesn't seem to affect the appearance of the desktop version but on the mobile app there is a blank space above the article. And the same problem with the article 'Military Career of Napoleon'.
I think the interactive map of military battles might be causing it, as the svg's file description makes reference to its use as a map pointer. Also the interactive map isn't working properly in the app.
If you fix it please let me know how you did it, so I can learn.
Thanks... A Miller (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Battlefield location[edit]
battle of ligny 16 June 1815 missing on waterloo campaign map. Napoleon was in command. Trampled12 (talk) 20:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Change to lead[edit]
Hello all
I have changed the the following sentence in the lead: "Napoleon brought modernizing reforms to France and Western Europe, stimulating the development of nation states."To: Napoleon brought modernizing reforms to France and Western Europe, and the upheavals of the period stimulated the development of nation states." It wasn't the modernising reforms in themselves that stimulated the development of the nation states, it was a much more complicated amalgam of revolutionary ideas, the unintended consequences of his reoganisation of Europe and a result of his enemies using patriotism as a weapon of war against him. The last thing Napoleon wanted was a unified Germany on his border, an independent Italy, and a Battle of the Nations.
Happy to discuss Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
A-Class[edit]
If this article is a DGA, shouldn’t it go from A-class to B-class? 48JCL (talk) 18:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- because the A-class criteria is stricter than ga-class 48JCL (talk) 18:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- If this article was downgraded from GA it should be B class. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cinderella157 wdym? 48JCL (talk) 23:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- If this article is a DGA, it goes from A-class to B-class (unless the reassessment indicates it is not sufficient to meet B class). If it is no longer GA, it can no longer be A. I have made the adjustments in the banner to reflect B class. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ohhh thanks a lot! 48JCL (talk) 23:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- If this article is a DGA, it goes from A-class to B-class (unless the reassessment indicates it is not sufficient to meet B class). If it is no longer GA, it can no longer be A. I have made the adjustments in the banner to reflect B class. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cinderella157 wdym? 48JCL (talk) 23:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Recent rewrite of lead[edit]
Hello all
A couple of editors have extensively rewritten the lead, adding quite a lot of detail. I think it is generally better written than the previous version, but it tries to cram in too much detail and too many links leading to an almost unreadable sea of blue. I have cut some of the detail but I think it should be condensed much more in order to make it a high level summary of the main points of the article, rather than an attempt to rewrite the entire article in four paragraphs.
Happy to dicuss Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 06:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
sfn style[edit]
The article previously used a roughly 50-50 mix of {{sfn}} and {{sfnp}}. I have standardised the sfns on the latter following personal preference but have no objection changing them all to the former if there's a consensus for that instead – I just think that the style should be the same throughout. There are also one or two plain-text (non-templated) references to convert, which I will do shortly. Best, Wham2001 (talk) 20:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done, but inevitably some of the sources are missing. If anybody can work out what the following sfns refer to:
- Ref #270, Chandler (1995)
- Ref #419, O'Connor (2003)
- Ref #428, Flynn (2001)
- please add the corresponding long-form source information to the bibliography (or fix the sfn, as appropriate). Thanks! Wham2001 (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Napoleon's Height[edit]
There's been a myth that Napoleon's height was somewhere around 5'2, but in reality, he was just short of 5'6. Should we include that? Guythatupdatesrandomly (talk) 00:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- This discussed in the section on "Appearance and Image". Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 00:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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