Talk:Ohio-class submarine

List of Boats

I note a column for service life is added. I say it would be nice to add a list of the dates of the Mid-Life refueling; or possibly the currently anticipated retirement year. Thnaks Wfoj3 (talk) 10:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Each SSBN submarine is armed with up to 24 Trident II submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM).

The ohio class SSBN fleet slbm tubes were reduced from 24 to 20 in 2017, several months before the compliance deadline of the NEW START treaty... you can confirm in these links https://www.navy.mil/Resources/Fact-Files/Display-FactFiles/Article/2169580/fleet-ballistic-missile-submarines-ssbn/

as of February 5, 2018, the Navy has completed the elimination of four launch tubes on all 14 of its Trident submarines. pg 22-23 https://sgp.fas.org/crs/nuke/R41219.pdf 2603:8000:9D00:694F:7021:1333:F6AB:D303 (talk) 05:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Powerplant

@Vepr157: Please don't change content while leaving a conflicting source attached. Commentatry in the edit summary is not sufficient. If you wish to change the horsepower (shp) value in the powerplant parameter of the infobox, you'll need to find a reliable source to support your change, (one that also explains the descrepancy with the current source). Thank you - wolf 13:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out, it is fixed now. Vepr157 (talk) 19:27, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Well, not exactly. Your edit just triggered a series of back-and-forth changes to the same value you changed, by multiple editors. And all you really did was simply swap one ref for another, but the ref you added was published in 1975, while the one you removed was last updated in 2000. The value you changed was 60,000 to 35,000, but that doesn't appear to be supported by your ref. According to the quote that has since been attached: "...the result was a TRIDENT submarine design of massive proportions. The projected boat would have a 30,000 ton displacement and would be powered by two 30,000 shp reactors...". I'm not sure where "35,000" came from, but it appears that the "60,000" value, which is also supported by the first ref, is more accurate. Also, please note I have don't have a pony in this race, I don't care which value is there, as long as it's accurately supported by the best sourcing available and the article is stable. Thanks - wolf 02:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

• Also, the specs entry lists "2× geared turbines". So the power per engine (30,000 shp) should be listed there. -Fnlayson (talk) 03:01, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

The 35,000-SHP figure is indeed supported by that reference. In Table 1 on p. 179, the rightmost column contains the specifications of the Ohio design as of the publication of the reference. The Ohio herself was laid down the following year, and thus that power figure is almost certainly representative of the actual specifications of that submarine. This unclassified source is remarkable in that it divulges information about the power of the Narwhal and Ohio's reactor power, which are classified Confidential (one wonders if Naval Reactors was consulted before these figures were published). So despite its age, this source is an excellent resource.

The erroneous 60,000-SHP figure comes up often in discussions about the Ohio, probably because of the middle column in that same table. But note that the submarine described there is wildly different than the Ohio: double the reactors, 1.5x the displacement, missiles even larger than the Trident II. Vepr157 (talk) 19:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Moved from my tp

Ohio class submarine 60000 shp

Is there anything wrong about changing it from 30000 to 60000 shp? Neildon Garcia (talk) 07:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

@Neildon Garcia:, I've moved this here where it belongs. Discussions about article content should always be on the article talk page, not on a user's talk page. That way, everything is in the open and and everyone can contribute.

There's a couple problems. First, you keep reverting, despite the edit warring policy, and second, as Fnlayson already explained, its denoted as "2x 30,000", but you keep changing it to "2x 60,000", which is both incorrect and not supported by the attached source. - wolf 07:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

@Neildon Garcia: Well, there's now a few more problems of note; 1) you continued editing and reverting, and violated 4RR. 2) you continued making changes to disputed content, when there was an active discussion on the article talk page about said content, and 3) you didn't really attempt engage in collaborative discussion regarding said content. Even though you added a brief question to my talk page at the last moment, you made no effort to take part in this discussion, that was already taking place here on the article talk page. This is basically required.

As a result of all this, I see you've now been blocked for 24 hours. I suggest you take that time to read through all information provided to you, both here and on your talk page, (including all the links provided as well). You will find the 24 hours will go by quickly and you will be free to edit again. If, for some reason, you still feel the "propulsion" parameter of the infobox needs to be changed, don't just go and change it again. That will likely lead to another, longer block. Instead, come here to the talk page, (to this thread) and state what change you would like to see made. Make sure to include any sources and/or guidelines that may support you request, and then we'll go from there. - wolf 10:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Advanced SEAL Delivery System (ASDS)

The article references the ASDS as if it's currently in use, but Wikipedia says ASDS was cancelled in 2009 after the prototype was destroyed in a 2008 fire. Should that be changed? DaBunny42 (talk) 15:34, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

This is a good question, and I've made this edit in response to update the article. - wolf 07:33, 10 November 2023 (UTC)