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Race

The word "race" has no standard definition in biology beyond the human race and the colloquial "race" to mean whether your African, Asian, or European. The word cultivar and variety (plant) are the correct terms and you can click on them to read the definitions. Both are used to mean a subspecies, or a variation within a given species. If we were talking about animals, the correct term for a subspecies would be a breed. All variations of domestic dogs derived from wolves are the same species, and only vary by their subspecies, or breed. The word "strain" is only used in microbiology and has no recognized definition for plants. Is "race" a British term?

Cultivar is used by commercial organizations that adopted the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants while variety (plant) is used by organizations that adopted the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature. When you purchase grass seed it will have a code from one of the groups for each of the seed types in the mix. Please don't revert back to the word "race" again, it will violate the three revert rule (3RR). --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 18:41, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. As you will note I pretty much wrote the definitions on "cultivar" and "plant variety" (OK "wrote" is an overstatement, but I substantially contributed).

In a case like the soybean there are literally thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of "recognisable products of cultivation". Some of these have been given a cultivar name (let's say hundreds) and others (perhaps also hundreds) are recognized plant varieties. These two categories are not mutually exclusive. Cultivar is a naming convention (regulated by ICNCP), not commercial at all, while plant variety is a legal convention (UPOV, etc), and is strictly commercial.

A subspecies is a rank regulated by the ICBN, and it has absolutely nothing to do with what is treated here. There will be at most a very limited number of them in soybeans.

Indeed the ICBN also has a formal rank of "variety", but it has as little bearing here as "subspecies".

I don't particularly like "race" (because of its connotation from being used for humans) but it does have a wider meaning, and it is correct (if not all that likable). For the moment I cannot think of a term that would also be correct. Race is vague, but so is the concept refered to. Brya 21:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we have an article on this, at Race (biology). See also Landrace, which is usually what is meant by race when it comes to domestic plants and animals. For non-domestics, "race" is an infrasubspecific taxonomic term that is not part of the formal scientific name (e.g. because researchers haven't decided whether it's a subspecies or whatever yet). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 15:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Google

"plant breeds" 210
"plant strain" 915
"plant cultivar" 922
"plant race" 1,340 but it picks up storied of racing to grow plants

Seed exchange site

I wanted to add a site I found in my area, Jacksonville, Florida Seed Exchange and Seed Bank, and it was removed because it is a wordpress site. Is it possible to re-add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.229.66 (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting link

deleting the link to survivalseeds. Its an obvious rip-off of scared people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.219.10.14 (talk) 20:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 11:02, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seedbank → Seed bank
Seed bank → Seed bank (disambiguation)

– The content presently at Seedbank is clearly the WP:PRIMARY topic, used frequently in everyday English writing about botany, conservation, farming, etc., while the other two uses (two variants of the same alternative use) at the disambiguation page, are both obscurities from environmental science, and in both cases are actually tongue-in-cheek references to the original concept, at Seedbank (they're metaphorical applications of the term for the human activity to a similar incidental effect occurring naturally by the environment itself acting as if it were a manmade seedbank[sic]. The change would also bring the current Seedbank article into name formatting consistency with (there may be others) Gene bank and Tissue bank, while the term Pollen bank (also usually spaced, not run-together) is attested in sources, too, but we just don't have an article on it yet. (The outlying Cryobank is not an issue, as wikt:cryo- is a combining form.) — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 15:16, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Move Seedbank to Seed bank and Seed bank to Seed bank (disambiguation). G. C. Hood (talk) 19:41, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per primary topic guidelines. Red Slash 20:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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