Talk:Table of General Standard Chinese Characters
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Requested move 17 June 2024[edit]
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Table of General Standard Chinese Characters → List of Commonly Used Standard Chinese Characters – "General" is an unnatural translation for 通用, which means "commonly used" or perhaps "in general use". I wouldn't be able to understand the current translation without additional context. The English title of the related document Stroke Orders of the Commonly Used Standard Chinese Characters is official, and it would make most sense to reflect that for consistency.
The Chinese word 表 is admittedly ambiguous. I'm not tied to using "list" instead of "table", but I understand the document as a numbered list, not a table; that is, I don't think the document is meant to draw meaningful correspondences between the numbers and the characters, but merely to list them out with indices. Also, List of Commonly Used Characters in Modern Chinese has been translated as "list" (and as "commonly used"), and I think we should maintain consistency by renaming one of the articles. pacificboy (talk) 04:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I should also add that I couldn’t find any existing English translations from reliable sources, either in the media or scholarship. pacificboy (talk) 05:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Now I've gone and looked myself. Found two:
- Yu LI's The Chinese Writing System in Asia (2020) translates it as List of Standardized Characters for General Use.
- LI Yuming's The Language Situation in China (2014) translates it as Table of General Standard Chinese Characters, the article title.
- Remsense诉 12:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- A couple more:
- Shouhui Zhao & Guowen Shang's "Language planning agency in China: from the perspective of the language academies" (2016) translates it as Comprehensive Table of Standardization
- Jiajin Xu's "Corpus-based Chinese studies: A historical review from the 1920s to the present" (2015) translates it as ‘A General Service List of Chinese Characters’ (quoted, not italicized)
- These two translations are both imprecise (通用 refers to the characters, not the list). There definitely doesn't seem to be a scholarly consensus. pacificboy (talk) 16:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- A couple more:
- Now I've gone and looked myself. Found two: