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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 20:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, I'll review this. FunkMonk (talk) 20:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Not a particularly big Yes fan myself, but this album is one of my favourite generally - when I first got hold of a CD copy (in the days where Bon Jovi and the Korg M1 were "in"), hearing the full roar of Tony Kaye's Hammond coming in 15 seconds into "Yours Is No Disgrace" made my (metaphorical) jaw drop. Anyway, I digress..... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:44, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'm a "moderate" fan as well, but I do own all their albums up until the early 80s... FunkMonk (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Not a particularly big Yes fan myself, but this album is one of my favourite generally - when I first got hold of a CD copy (in the days where Bon Jovi and the Korg M1 were "in"), hearing the full roar of Tony Kaye's Hammond coming in 15 seconds into "Yours Is No Disgrace" made my (metaphorical) jaw drop. Anyway, I digress..... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:44, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- First off, can sources be found for the stuff under Reissues?
- Oh yes, I meant to do this. Annoyingly, AllMusic (which is usually on the ball with all the various CD configurations) doesn't cover the original 1988 CD reissue, but I have it. It sounds really awful though, lots of background hiss, really nasty job, none of the original LP art. I think I've bought this album 4 times in different formats over the past few decades :-/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Being a short article, could the notes be merged into the text?
- Hmm, they originally were in the text, but I felt they were a little distracting from the main prose. For instance, only a musician would understand anything about me saying "14/8 right channel, 7/4 left channel". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)
- Up to you, I think it's ok to challenge the reader a little, they're here to learn after all... FunkMonk (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've put the description of what a "vachalia" is back into the body. If you do a Google search for that name, all you get is references to this album. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:22, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Up to you, I think it's ok to challenge the reader a little, they're here to learn after all... FunkMonk (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm, they originally were in the text, but I felt they were a little distracting from the main prose. For instance, only a musician would understand anything about me saying "14/8 right channel, 7/4 left channel". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)
- "a "needle-drop" sample of the original vinyl release" What does this mean?
- That's what the source says - "a 'needle drop' rip". I've wikilinked to Needle drop (audio) which should hopefully explain things. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Good enough. FunkMonk (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- That's what the source says - "a 'needle drop' rip". I've wikilinked to Needle drop (audio) which should hopefully explain things. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- More to come as I read along. FunkMonk (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- "They had replaced founding member Banks with Howe" Full names, roles and links at first mention. Should also be done elsewhere in the article when new people are mentioned.
- They've already been mentioned in the lead. Previously I have seen a name use in full for first mention in the lead and body, but I recently took You Never Give Me Your Money to GA, and that doesn't, and WP:LASTNAME in the MOS suggests that is correct. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 07:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I was always under the impression that the leas and the article are two separate texts, the former only a summary of the latter. Not a big deal anyway. FunkMonk (talk) 18:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think it's something that's strongly enforced in any case, and it doesn't matter too much one way or the other, as long as all names are consistent within the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:05, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I was always under the impression that the leas and the article are two separate texts, the former only a summary of the latter. Not a big deal anyway. FunkMonk (talk) 18:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- They've already been mentioned in the lead. Previously I have seen a name use in full for first mention in the lead and body, but I recently took You Never Give Me Your Money to GA, and that doesn't, and WP:LASTNAME in the MOS suggests that is correct. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 07:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- "Atlantic Records by mid-1970, but neither had been commercially successful and their record label, Atlantic Records" Redundancy.
- Could the external link (an interview) perhaps be sued as source for some additional info? FunkMonk (talk) 22:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sued? Are you making a legal threat? ;-) The interview is a bit rambling and seems to talk about early Yes generally, rather than anything to do with this album, but there are a few interesting insights, so I've dropped a few cites in. It now means the article has at least one opinion from each band member, which I think is a plus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:03, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Good! FunkMonk (talk) 18:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sued? Are you making a legal threat? ;-) The interview is a bit rambling and seems to talk about early Yes generally, rather than anything to do with this album, but there are a few interesting insights, so I've dropped a few cites in. It now means the article has at least one opinion from each band member, which I think is a plus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:03, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Steve_Howe_Trio_%282914131870%29.jpg/220px-Steve_Howe_Trio_%282914131870%29.jpg)
- The lead doesn't describe the actual music at all, is there a way this could be done? FunkMonk (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've expanded this a bit. It struck me that if you know nothing about this album, you wouldn't know it has three part harmonies all the way through it, a stock-in-trade for Yes. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:05, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- The article seems quite a bit more comprehensive now. Nice evolution, I'll pass this. FunkMonk (talk) 19:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for a good review - considering new ideas and thoughts to help make it better. Incredible that it went from sub C class to GA in two days! Homage must go to Martinevans123 who noticed the album cover has Kaye's foot in plaster, not his entire leg. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- I have to admit that, for many years (in my youth), I thought that the foot somehow belonged not to Kaye but to the mannequin. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for a good review - considering new ideas and thoughts to help make it better. Incredible that it went from sub C class to GA in two days! Homage must go to Martinevans123 who noticed the album cover has Kaye's foot in plaster, not his entire leg. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)