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If a charge for an attempted assassination is brought against the accused individual in the future, then the title would cease being a BLPCRIME violation. But we would have to wait for a court to formally issue that charge. –Gluonztalkcontribs20:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like you’re convicting someone based on your perception of the evidence. Wikipedia is based on what reliable sources say, not on our individual perceptions or political beliefs. This article is not notable enough for a separate Wikipedia article. 71.114.123.162 (talk) 23:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, that does not mean that he is notable enough for an entire separate Wikipedia article. This is pure recentism and an attempt to use Wikipedia to further a particular political narrative during an election period. This could easily have just been one or two sentences in the article on security incidents surrounding trump. 71.114.123.162 (talk) 05:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're misinterpreting WP:BLPCRIME. The title does not say that Routh committed a crime, but rather that there was an attempted assassination against Trump in Florida. The body of the article describes what officials believe happened. In describing the criminal act itself, the word "man" is used. Other factual information, such as the note written by Routh, the SUV owned by him etc. are also included.
No it doesn't "implicate" anyone. The article neither states nor implies that the accused person is legally guilty of anything. That is up to the courts to determine. There is no BLP violation here. Cullen328 (talk) 05:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is currently titled "Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Florida", and the "suspect" (the BLP) is listed. I'm not really seeing how this isn't a BLPCRIME violation, and a rather serious one at that. Even our secondary sources in the RM above were hedging their language with "apparent", but BLPCRIME goes further, stating that a mere accusation isn't enough as BLPCRIME says there is a presumption of innocence. The previous title that classified it as a security incident was far more appropriate and in-line with the sources. —Locke Cole • t • c15:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is about Donald Trump, not Routh. Routh is a named suspect and the title isn't Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Florida by Ryan Routh for that reason. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, people are misinterpreting WP:BLPCRIME:
For individuals who are not public figures—that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures—editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured for that crime.
Routh is a public figure, so WP:BLPCRIME does not apply in the way that you are describing.
We can describe Routh based on what WP:RS say, including the notion that he's an alleged assassin.
The previous title that classified it as a security incident was far more appropriate and in-line with the sources.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Every WP:RS source now describes this as an assassination attempt.
Yes, it's a pretty obvious BLPCRIME violation. Article titles shouldn't implicate living people (including public figures) in crimes they have only been charged with (see WP:KILLINGS for comparison). That's why I thought we should go with something like "alleged assassination attempt". FallingGravity09:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why it matters, the article is about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, it's not an article about Routh. Routh is a named suspect in the matter, which has nothing to do with the title. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I am officially proposing a move review from Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Florida to September 2024 attempted assassination of Donald Trump for the following reason: the ladder option is more precise because it includes the specific time frame of the event (September 2024), which clarifies when the attempted assassination occurred. Option A does specify a location (Florida), but it lacks the temporal detail that can be important for context. Readers with lacking information would not be given enough context in the title to determine which came first, which is more important than the location it occurred in. Best, Zeke (talk) 22:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]