Template:Did you know nominations/Ranke Library
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
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Ranke Library[edit]
... that on April 22, 1887, Syracuse University outbid Prussia to purchase the Library of Leopold von Ranke, a collection of over 21,000 items?Source:Stam, David H. (2016-01-08). International Dictionary of Library Histories. Routledge. p. 730. ISBN 9781136777851.
Moved to mainspace by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:54, 27 April 2019 (UTC).
Interesting facts on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. - Article name: why is it not Ranke Library, if that is the bolded name? - I suggest you mention one item from the library in the hook to indicate its significance. How do you feel about an infobox? (... because as it is, it looks like an article about a person.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt Done all except one item from the library. It doesn't really have a 'highlight' (i.e. one thing that stands out more than the others), so I don't think it makes sense to only list one. Maybe something like ALT2? Eddie891 Talk Work 20:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that when Syracuse University outbid Prussia to purchase the Ranke Library in 1887,The New York Times called the collection "probably the rarest historical one ever owned by any one"?
- I like ALT2, but think you could sharpen it to that The New York Times said so upon the deal (not anyone anytime). Please return the image of Ranke, just to his section. And how about saying that the location is Syracuse? - One more: "The purchase catapulted Syracuse University Library onto the global library stage" (in the lead) sounds a bit theatrical to me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt: How about now? Eddie891 Talk Work 21:28, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Now we are a few characters too long. Use the short name, or drop the year? Also someone will complain that The belongs in the link for the paper's name ;) - Would the infobox have a parameter for the library? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:53, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- - to watchers: ALT2 changed a few times, but so minor that it seemed no worthwhile to demand different variants. Great fact, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
So much is going on in ALT2 that it's no longer hooky. How about something like:- ALT3: ... that after outbidding the Prussian government for the 17,000-book Ranke Library, the Syracuse University Library became the third largest library in New York state? Yoninah (talk) 17:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, besides seeing no reason to change "Library" to "collection", third-largest in New York State at that time doesn't mean much, and "ever by one man" is a different story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah, I think ALT2 is still hooky, but if you don't, I'm perfectly fine with withdrawing the DyK, it doesn't mean that much to me, it was merely an interesting article for me to write. I agree with Gerda that ALT3 is not interesting enough to a wide audience, nor significant enough to merit mention. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:49, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt fix ping. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:50, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt Done all except one item from the library. It doesn't really have a 'highlight' (i.e. one thing that stands out more than the others), so I don't think it makes sense to only list one. Maybe something like ALT2? Eddie891 Talk Work 20:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
