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this one Grancafé

--Grancafé (talk) 00:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

--Grancafé *parley 02:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Very Important Pages (VIP)

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Special Contacts

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User:Maedin / User talk:Maedin

User talk:Doc Quintana

User talk:Ikip

User Talk:Coffee

User talk:Jerem43

User talk:Mijotoba

User:Jujutacular / User talk:Jujutacular

user:fl / user:fl/Contact

Favorite Wisdom Quotes

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“Skepticism is the beginning of faith” Oscar Wilde

Important Pages Available

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Wikipedia:Barnstars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars

Template:Citation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation

Wikipedia:Administrators http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators

Wikipedia:Cheatsheet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEAT

Help:Wiki markup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup

Wikipedia:User page design center http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UPDC

Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines

Portals

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Talk:Ospina Coffee Company

Portal:Drink

Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink

Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Beverages Task Force/Coffee and Tea task force

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink/Beverages Task Force/Coffee and Tea task force


Templates

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Template:Talkback http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Talkback

Administartive Matters

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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI WP:ANI

Wikipedia:Requests for comment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC

Conflict of interest and/or WP:COI

Wikipedia:Edit warring

WP:3rr

Wikipedia:Third opinion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:3RD

Wikipedia:Requests for comment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RfC

Wikipedia:Arbitration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requesting_dispute_resolution

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Subsequent_uses_of_names

Wikipedia:WikiLove http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove

Wikipedia:Negotiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Compromise

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AE

Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts

Wikipedia:Harassment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AC

Wikipedia:Arbitration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration

Wikipedia:Manual of Style http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Boldface#Boldface

Definitions

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Harassment is defined as a pattern of offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to have the purpose of adversely affecting a targeted person or persons, usually (but not always) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating the primary target. The intended outcome may be to make editing Wikipedia unpleasant for the target, to undermine them, to frighten them, or to discourage them from editing entirely.

Wiki-hounding is the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on pages or topics they may edit or debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work, with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor. To use the older term "Wikistalking" for this action is discouraged because it can confuse minor online annoyance with a real world crime.

Many users track other users' edits, although usually for collegial or administrative purposes. Proper use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Wikipedia policy or correcting related problems on multiple articles. In fact, such practices are recommended both for Recent changes patrol and WikiProject Spam. The contribution logs can be used in the dispute resolution process to gather evidence to be presented in requests for comment, mediation, WP:ANI, and arbitration cases.
The important component of wiki-hounding is disruption to another user's own enjoyment of editing, or to the project generally, for no overriding reason. If "following another user around" is accompanied by tendentiousness, personal attacks, or other disruptive behavior, it may become a very serious matter and could result in blocks and other editing restrictions.

Dealing with harassment

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If you feel you are being harassed, first and foremost, act calmly (even if difficult). It is hard to over-emphasize this.

In serious cases or where privacy and off-wiki aspects are an issue (eg, where private personal information is a part of the issue, or on-wiki issues spread to email and 'real world' harassment, or similar), you can contact the Arbitration Committee or the volunteer response team by email, in confidence. Please note that the volunteer response team cannot deal with protracted disputes between established editors, but rather can only address urgent incidents where page deletion may be required.

For simple, on-wiki matters, such as a user with whom you have arguments, see dispute resolution as the usual first step. It makes it easier to identify the problem you are having if there are some specific diffs. For more serious cases where you are willing to address it on-wiki, you may request administrative assistance.

Note: If there are concerns over your own editing, then you will quite likely gain attention from administrators and other concerned users as a result. Provided this is civil and addressed appropriately, and for valid purposes, it would not be considered 'harassment'.

Barnstars

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Wikipedia:Barnstars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars

The Kindness Barnstar

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The Citation Barnstar The Kindness Barnstar
message Grancafé (parley) 14:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Julie's Kindness Barnstar

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Dear Julie, you are a very sweet and gentle soul. Thank you very much for your kindness and uplifting inspiration. You are an angel, --Grancafé (parley) 14:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


The Citation Barnstar The Kindness Barnstar
Dear Julie, you are a very sweet and gentle soul. Thank you very much for your kindness and uplifting inspiration. Gracias, Grancafé (parley) 14:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The Citation Barnstar

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The Citation Barnstar The Citation Barnstar
message Grancafé (parley) 14:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The Peace Barnstar

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The Barnstar of Diplomacy
message Grancafé (parley) 14:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The Guidance Barnstar

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The Guidance Barnstar
Hi ..., this barnstar is for your tireless efforts in helping, orienting and encouraging newcomers and novice editors, like me. Thanks,

Grand Coffee Award

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Test barnstar:

Grand Coffee Vizir Barnstar
For your valuable hard work, courage and noble dedication to the cause of Coffee, you are hereby conferred this Grand Coffee Vizir award of high distinction and accomplishment. Congratulations! Grancafé (talk) 03:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

The Barnstar Awards

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The Editor's Barnstar
message Grancafé (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


The Blue Heart Honor Barnstar
Honor, Integrity and Valor Grancafé (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Very Special Posting

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File:South America - Blue Marble orthographic.jpg

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:South America - Blue Marble orthographic.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Maedin\talk 20:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

“The heart has reasons of which reason knows not” Blaise Pascal. Check this song from Lhasa, I’m going in: [1] Yours truly, --Grancafé *parley 19:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

“The heart has reasons of which reason knows not” Blaise Pascal. Check these songs from Lhasa, I’m going in [2] and [3] Truly, --Grancafé *parley 19:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

“The heart has reasons of which reason knows not” Blaise Pascal. Listen to these songs from Lhasa, I’m going in [4] and [5] Truly,--Grancafé *parley 20:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

“The heart has reasons of which reason knows not” Blaise Pascal. Listen these songs from Lhasa, I’m going in, [6], J’ arrive en ville [7], and Who by fire [8]Truly, --Grancafé *parley 20:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

“The heart has reasons of which reason knows not” Blaise Pascal. I thought you might like these songs from Lhasa, I’m going in [9], J’ arrive en ville [10], and Who by fire [11]Yours truly, --Grancafé *parley 20:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

“The heart has reasons of which reason knows not”, Blaise Pascal. I thought you might like these songs from Lhasa, I’m going in [12], J’ arrive en ville [13], and Who by fire [14]Yours truly, --Grancafé *parley 23:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style

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Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)

How to do citing and referencing

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Hope this helps. Ikip 03:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Reference name (naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once)

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To give a footnote a unique identifier, use <ref name="name"> ... </ref>. You can then refer to the same footnote again by using a ref tag with the same name like <ref name="name" />. The name cannot be a number, or the extension will return an error. The ref name need not be placed within quotes unless it contains a space, certain punctuation marks, or non-ASCII characters[1] (the wiki parser converts single word quoteless attribute values into validly quoted XHTML). Note that any quotation marks placed around the ref name must be straight quotes (") rather than curly quotes ( or ).

Named references are used when there are several cases of repetition of exactly the same reference, including the page number for books; they should not be used to cite different pages in the same book. Named references in wikitext serve a purpose similar to loc. cit. or ibid. in printed media. See also cautions in Style below.

Only the first occurrence of text in a named ref will be used, although that occurrence may be located anywhere in the article. You can either copy the whole footnote, or you can use a terminated empty ref tag that looks like this: <ref name="name" />. Such forward-slash-terminated named tags may precede the definition of the named reference.[2] When using named references, the use of <ref name="name" /> for the later instances of the named footnote is encouraged, rather than copying the whole footnote again. Whole footnotes tend to reduce the readability of the article's text in edit mode, which makes finding specific parts of the text when editing tedious.

This, like the use of named footnotes in the first place, is a matter for editorial judgment; some editors do repeat the entire footnote, in case rearrangement of the text removes the first note, or places it after a blank note (previously, the note had to be defined prior to use, although that is no longer the case). If so, all instances of the footnote must be updated together, which can be more trouble than it saves.

In the following example, the same source is cited three times.

This is an example of multiple references to the same footnote.<ref name="multiple" /> Such references are particularly useful when citing sources where different statements come from the same source.<ref name="multiple">Author, A. (2007). "How to cite references", New York: McGraw-Hill.</ref> A concise way to make multiple references is to use empty ref tags, which have a slash at the end.<ref name="multiple">This text is superfluous, and won't show up anywhere. We may as well just use an empty tag.</ref>

== Notes ==
<references />

The edit text above gives the following result in the article:

This is an example of multiple references to the same footnote.[1] Such references are particularly useful when citing sources where different statements come from the same source.[1] A concise way to make multiple references is to use empty ref tags, which have a slash at the end.[1]

Notes


  1. ^ a b c Author, A. (2007). "How to cite references", New York: McGraw-Hill.

One should be particularly careful when deleting a named reference with text content, because the footnote text will be deleted unless it is copied to another ref tag with the same name.

Practicing citing

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Don Mariano Ospina Rodríguez was one of Colombia's earliest and most profoundly influential coffee pioneers, with an entrepreneurial spirit and tenacity. He began his quest in 1835, seeking the best lands and terroir for growing coffee within the lush mountains of the province of Antioquia. He established his first coffee plantation there, on the volcanic slopes of Fredonia, Antioquia, where he pursued coffee growing with passion and a scientific interest. As a result of Don Mariano's careful investigations and studies, Colombia began producing some of the best coffees in the world, the Coffea arabica species.

Also an educator, journalist, lawyer, political leader and a statesman, Don Mariano was one of the founders of the Colombian Conservative Party [2] in 1849.[3] He was elected to Congress in 1850 and later, in 1854, he was elected Governor of the State of Antioquia. A few years later, in 1857 he was elected as the 12th President of Colombia [3]. After his presidency, he expanded his coffee enterprise to Guatemala in 1865, and in so doing became one of the first coffee growing pioneers in Central America.

General Pedro Nel Ospina [4], son of Don Mariano Ospina Rodríguez, furthered the Ospina Coffee family tradition and worked arduously to improve and expand the family’s coffee business and plantations. In 1910 he was appointed Ambassador of Colombia to the United States and thereafter to Belgium. Upon his return to the country, he was elected to congress and later as Governor of Antioquia. Later, in 1922, he was elected as Colombia's 36th President[5]During his administration, he organized the Departments of Education, Health and the Treasury. He created el Banco de la República[6](the Central Bank of Colombia) and advanced critical public works, such as the main national highways and railways systems, dams and bridges, and the crude oil pipelines connecting the mayor oil-fields to the sea ports.[3]

Mariano Ospina Pérez was elected as the 43rd President of Colombia [12] in 1946.[3] During his administration, Colombia reached the highest level of coffee exports in number of bags and as a percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP). He was determined to fortify the nation's infrastructure and created Ecopetrol [13] (Colombian Petroleum Company) and Acerias Paz del Río (the country's largest steel mill). He was also committed to social responsibility and, to that effect, he created a financial institution (La Caja Agraria), the Social Security Administration and the Department of Labor to help meet the credit, educational and social needs of blue collar workers, coffee growers, and other small farmers and peasants.

ref name="Arismendi">Gobernantes Colombianos, Ignacio Arismendi Posada, Interprint Editors Ltd., Italgraf, Segunda Edición, Bogotá, Colombia, 1983</ref

Eureka! I got it!

New referencing style

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<ref name="ospina">Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah</ref>

I don't think this is going to work. I tried it before and it did not work. I am going to stick to the one I know that works, which is[4]. In Colombia we say: "es mejor malo conocido que bueno por conoser", which means: "it is better the bad you know than the good to be known".[4]

This computer keeps loging me out. I am sorry, but this is the same me.[5]

Templates

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Talkback

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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at Grancafé's talk page.
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Osarius.
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at Wikipedia User talk:Grancafé's talk page.
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at [[User talk:Wikipedia:--Grancafé (talk) 03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)|User talk:Wikipedia:--Grancafé (talk) 03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)]].
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at [[Wikipedia:User talk:Grancafé#--Grancafé (talk) 03:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)|Wikipedia:User talk:Grancafé]].
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at [[User talk:--Grancafé (talk) 03:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)|User talk:--Grancafé (talk) 03:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)]].
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ERROR: Please enter the username parameter when using the {{Talkback}} template - thus {{Talkback|<username>}}.

Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at [[User talk:--Grancafé (talk) 03:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)|User talk:--Grancafé (talk) 03:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)]].
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at Grancafé's talk page.
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at [[User talk:Grancafé#--Grancafé (talk) 03:54, 26 February 2010 (UTC)|Grancafé's talk page]].
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Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at Grancafé's talk page.
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The template above is the correct template, adding a signature after the ts=

Hello, Grancafé. You have new messages at Grancafé's talk page.
Message added --Grancafé (talk) 04:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Graphics and Fonts

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This is a maroon Verdana font

Practice new signature

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Grancafé (talk)

Grancafé

Grancafé

Grancafé

Grancafé

talk

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Grancafé (parley)

<sup>This is superscript text</sup>

This is superscript text

Grancafé parley

new superscript signature

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Grancafé *parley

My new signature: --Grancafé *parley 03:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Greetings and Salutations

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<font style="color:#800000;" face=Verdana>This is a maroon Verdana font</font>

produces this: This is a maroon Verdana font

<font style="color:#800000;" face=Verdana>Greetings and salutations</font>

Hi Jujutacular, I came across your page seeking for an answer, as I was seeking for another answer. Both unanswered so far. I was expecting an answer from Okip, so I went to his page. There I saw a posting from Coffee, which surprised me as being associated with coffee as I am. Thus I went to his page and was very impressed with his curriculum and graphics. I asked him a question, but did not get an answer. Looking for this answer, I found your name and page, which are equally impressive. I will ask you to please help me with two questions: 1) how can I improve my signature, from the plain ordinary Arial blue to a bold italic Verdana burgundy? And 2) how can I see (or find) my edit counter (what you call edit stats)? I await your response. Kindest regards, --Grancafé (talk) 18:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

You can change your signature by going to "my preferences" - one of the links at the upper right corner of you screen. From there, enter in the code that you would like to be your signature where it says "Signature:". To create a custom signature, I would suggest looking at the code used by other editors. You can see the code they used to generate their signature by looking at source code for any talk page they write on. Font can be changed by using the code:
<font style="color:#800000;" face=Verdana>This is a maroon Verdana font</font>

produces this: This is a maroon Verdana font

For a full list of colors available, see Web colors. When editing your signature, you should make sure that it falls within the guidelines located at WP:SIGNATURE. As for the edit counter, the one linked on my userpage is this one. Simply type in your username in the box, and you'll get a lot of information. A simple edit counter is also located in your preferences. Hope this helps :) Jujutacular T · C 18:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your prompt response and explanations. I am going to try and experiment. I am cyber-phobic and rather be safe than sorry. Nevertheless, it seems that it should not be too complicated. I am going to give it a try. You have an awesome page. Maybe someday I will improve mine. For now it is plain and simple, just to the point. Again, thanks a lot, --Grancafé (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jujutacular, thank you for following up on our initial conversation. I did experiment on my practice page using bold letters, but it turns out to be a little extravagant. Thus, after further experimenting I decided to keep this last version (for now). But I would like to make the "parley" one point smaller and hopefully towards the top of the line like you have your T.C). I hope I am explaining my self that you may understand what I would like. If it is not to troublesome and complicated, please advice, otherwise forget it. I am happy the way it is. It is quite an improvement from the old, boring, plain blue arial that I had before. Thank you very much for your wonderful and prompt help. Best, --Grancafé . parley 00:52, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I believe you're referring to superscript. Example: <sup>This is superscript text</sup> produces: This is superscript text. Jujutacular T · C 00:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, that's it! How do I do that? --Grancafé . parley 01:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
One last request. If you are going to help me get this done, waht about changing the color of "parley" from burgundy to dark coffee? I hope this is not to much to ask. Thanks, --Grancafé . parley 01:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

How to change color and font

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The signature change did not work

Hello Jujutacular, I tried to change my signature and it did not work. I copied your instructions, practiced and practiced and practiced, until I got it right. Very exciting! Then I went to my preferences tab, and in the signature box Iinserted this:

Grancafé (parley)

And got this: Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags.

I need further instructions. The first part worked fine; the second part failed. Please advice. Thanks, --Grancafé (talk) 00:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, try the following code:
[[User:Grancafe|''<span style="color:#800000; font-family:Verdana">Grancafé</span>'']] ([[User talk:Grancafe|''<span style="color:#800000; font-family:Verdana">parley</span>'']])

Which produces: Grancafé (parley)

The problem was the "font" tags which are deprecated. My mistake. Jujutacular T · C 02:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
It worked! Thanks, --Grancafé (parley) 12:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Grancafé . parley

Questions and Answers

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I need your help and advice

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Dear FL, I need to ask for your help and advise. I am being harassed by some editors who obviously have different points of view and opinions from mine. I am new to Wikipedia and feel some sort of disoriented. How should I handle this uncomfortable situation? Please advise. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Best, --Grancafé (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

A good way to get quick resolution to a situation is to post on WP:ANI, the incident noticeboard for administrators. Simply click here to start a post, enter the subject and content, then save it. Be sure to inform any users that you mention in your posting that you have mentioned them on the noticeboard by leaving a note on their talk pages and also make sure you monitor the post's discussion periodically, answering any questions asked. ~fl 09:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your kind response. I will follow your advice. Best, --Grancafé (talk) 18:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

your question

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yes, am I wrong? were you referring to something else?
the policy pages are boring, but a lot of these geeks love to quote it, read some of WP:UNDUE regarding your two paragraphs. Again, no one is stopping you from adding back any information, it is just that if it is not "encyclopedic" (which is a relative term in a lot of cases) then someone may come along and remove it. I am crashing out now, good night.

my question

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Posted under Further Help on your talk page. Hi Ikip, I just saw a response from Flowanda. Please go to my Talk:Ospina Coffee Company and see what she says. There are some issues about Conflict of interest, sourcing and edits since AfD was withdrawn and Clarity concerning family business and company and "According to its history, the company has only been in existence since the early 2000s and is based in the United States. I can find no references to the company name other than the few from product listings and regional articles and none in what little I could see from the article's book references. The family has a long and interesting history and influence in the Colombian coffee industry, but notability can't be inherited or renamed". Please take a look at my response and please let me know if there is anything else I should ad or discuss. Thanks, --Grancafé (talk) 02:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead and add back what you feel you should. You know, there is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink/Beverages Task Force/Coffee and Tea task force last edit was December, but you could post your question about coffee there. Also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Colombia.
the person who has edited the coffee project the most is User talk:Jerem43 and User talk:Iateasquirrel, you could ask them. [15] Ikip 03:19, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

my further question

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Thank you VERY much for your responses and links. They seem to be most helpful. All I am asking you further is to look at my response to Flowanda and let me know if I have covered her concerns or should I add something else. Thanks.
more questions
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[1] Who?

[2] Where?

[3] When?

[4] How?

[5] Why?

Special Talk pages

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The Omo People of Ethiopia

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Hi sJulie, I came across these fascinating pieces and thought you might be interested, one is on the "Omo people" of Ethiopia [16] and the other one about a new Opera singer, in my humble opinion, I think the successor of Pavaroti [17]. I hope you will enjoy them. How did you like Aznavour, Lhsa, Birkin, Fahl and Torrini? Kindest regards, --Grancafé *parley 19:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

removed talk edits

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Hi, I removed edits that were copied from my talk page. I normally reply on article talk pages, but I wanted to keep this conversation on my page and separate from a larger unrelated discussion elsewhere. You and ikip are certainly welcome to repost your own comments to the article talk page (especially any proposed edits or discussion related to the article). Thanks. Flowanda | Talk 05:32, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed Paragraphs

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Hi Jeremy. Thank you for taking the time to review these two paragraphs and your comments. I would like to ask you to please further review my point of view. This was my direct response to Flowanda:

Hello Flowanda, I just noticed the changes, deletions and adjustments to the article. Thank you very much for your most valuable help and contributions. I am an amateur in these matters, and thus, I truly appreciate your insightful work. Nevertheless, I am not convinced of all the deletions you made. I don't agree with a few of the changes and deletions, but most important to me, the section on the Colombian Coffee Federation was cut down from 7 paragraphs to 5, omitting the history of 1930 and 1954. This deletion is unfounded, in my opinion. Both paragraphs are substantiated and the reference comes directly from Mr. Diego Pizano's book, who is currently one of the top Executives of the Federation.
"In December of 1930, the Fourth National Congress of Coffee Growers convened in Bogotá. Due to the vast knowledge and experience acquired by Mariano Ospina Pérez in the coffee industry, as a result of running his own coffee business, he was summoned by the Minister of Industry Francisco J. Chaux and by President Rafael Olaya Herrera to preside over this Congress. Ospina Pérez was elected President of this Fourth Congress. At the adjournment of this Congress, Ospina Pérez was elected, by the unanimous vote of the delegates, as “Gerente de la Federación” (General Director). He served in this position for four years, until 1934.[40][41]"
"In 1954, during the election of members of the Board of Directors (of the National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia), Mariano Ospina Pérez, who served as President of the Republic from 1946 to 1950, was elected and installed as President of the Board of Directors. His return to the Federation marked the reappearance of one of Colombia's greatest coffee names, in an active role, in the History of Colombia's coffee industry.[23][42]" 42. ^ El Café en la Ecrucijada, Evolución y Perspectivas, Diego Pizano, Editorial Alfaomega, Bogotá, August 2001, Page 31, ISBN 958-682-192-7"
In my opinion, these two paragraphs are essential to the story, not only because it emphasizes the knowledge and experience of Mariano Ospina Pérez in the coffee industry, which he successfully acquired by running his own coffee business. The History of Ospina Coffee Company an the history of the National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia are profoundly interrelated and, as most historians (Andres Uribe, Jorge Melo and Diego Pizano) truly and properly point it out, they are almost one and the same. They are so interwoven that one story cannot be separated or isolated from the other.
Why would these two paragraphs be removed? Specially if they are substantiated by the Federation itself? Why was the reference of "El Café en la Ecrucijada, Evolución y Perspectivas, Diego Pizano, Editorial Alfaomega, Bogotá, August 2001, Page 31, ISBN 958-682-192-7" completely removed? I might be wrong, but I see no purpose or meaning.

I would like you to please reexamine these two paragraphs and reincorporate them to the article. In my humble opinion, without these two paragraphs, the story and the History will not be complete. Kindly please advise. Thanks, --Grancafé --Grancafé 17:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC) --Grancafé 17:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grancafe (talkcontribs)

One more thing, when reviewing and reconsidering these two paragraphs, please keep in mind that five prominent members of the Ospina family and Ospina coffee were heavenly involved in the creation, organization and administration of the Colombian Coffee Federation. They were Mariano, Pastor, Tulio, Rafael and Mariano Ospina Perez. The Federation exist because of their acumen, vision, conscience, knowledge and experience obtained in running their family coffee enterprise. There is no other family, group or business in Colombia so directly and decisively involved in the establishment of this institution. The Federation exist because the Ospinas and their coffee enterprise. The Federation is a direct byproduct of Ospina coffee and perhaps the greatest achievement of the Ospina family in favor of the coffee industry of Colombia and the coffee growers. Accuracy also requires completeness and wholeness. Thank you very much, --Grancafe (talk) 05:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Dear Flowanda, please allow me further elaborate here. What I am trying to convey and stress with these two paragraphs is the fact that if the Government, the Federation and the coffee growers of Colombia trusted Mariano Ospina Pérez to run the affairs of the nation’s coffee industry, it was because of his experience, knowhow and successful achievements, proven in the handling of his Ospina coffee business. These two paragraphs are not my words. These are direct quotes from the sources and references. It is essential to explain that his unanimous election to these positions was due to his administrative and entrepreneurial successes in his private coffee business and personal affairs. Thanks for your consideration. Best, --Grancafé (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Please realize the close relationship between Ospina Coffee, the Colombian Coffee Federation and the Ospinas, in particular the leadership and administration of Mariano Ospina Perez. The Federation exists because the Ospinas and Ospina Coffee and and not the other way around, Ospina Coffee because of the Coffee Federation.

Also, I did see the article on Mariano Ospina Perez. How come this article may stand with only one reference?? The article on Ospina Coffee has more than thirty references. Why is this?

Thank you very much for your help, time and consideration. Best, --Grancafé (talk) 12:25, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


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Hello,

After reading those two paragraphs, I think that they do not really relate to the article as a whole. However, the content easily could be placed the biographical article on Mariano Ospina Pérez.

I hope that helps you a little, --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 03:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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I did not see any error, mayhaps you just need to do a cache flush on your browser. Also, while your research is really good, please try to get some English language references. I have read many articles about the National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia in various US publications that were in English. It would bolster the article and keep other editors from contesting it. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 05:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, this is very important, you are using a non-free image in the article but you have failed to put a fair use rationale (FUR) for use in the article on the image page which is required. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 05:46, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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  1. ^ Specifically, quotes are not necessary if the name contains only printable ASCII characters excluding space, straight double quote ("), dollar sign ($), percent sign (%), straight single quote ('), plus sign (+), equals sign (=), backslash (\), and the greater-than sign (>). With quotes, the only restriction is that the name may not contain the less-than sign (<) or the quote character.
  2. ^ Wikipedia Signpost. November 13, 2006.
  3. ^ a b c Gobernantes Colombianos, Ignacio Arismendi Posada, Interprint Editors Ltd., Italgraf, Segunda Edición, Bogotá, Colombia, 1983
  4. ^ a b Gobernantes Colombianos, Ignacio Arismendi Posada, Interprint Editors Ltd., Italgraf, Segunda Edición, Page 152, Bogotá, Colombia, 1983
  5. ^ Historia de Antioquia, Jorge Orlando Melo, Editorial Presencia Ltd, Primera Edición, Page 226, Bogotá, Colombia, November, 1988