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Thank you kindly![edit]

I'm used to working on a custom implementation of MediaWiki, so my Wikipedia skills are out of practice. Much thanks for cleaning up my contributions to the Cindy_Hyde-Smith article to meet WP standards! 2601:3CA:204:F860:4DEB:52C8:7CB0:F598 (talk) 23:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:John F. Kennedy memorials[edit]

Hi Anomalous+0 - I see you added Category:Monuments and memorials in the United States to the John F. Kennedy memorial category. About a quarter of the monuments listed are outside the US - is it an appropriate parent? Grutness...wha? 00:00, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Grutness: Huh, good question. I had indeed spotted half a dozen that were outside the US, and I didn't think that was a problem. After reading your note, I just had another look and found some more that I had missed. By my count, 12 out of 59 (about a fifth) are outside the US. If it was much more I suppose I'd need to reconsider -- but I'm inclined to leave it, as much as anything because it was rather shocking not to find a JFK category listed among the many sub-cats of Category:Monuments and memorials in the United States, if you see what I mean. I guess we could consider creating a US sub-cat of Category:Memorials to John F. Kennedy, but that seems kind of excessive, don't you think? (PS - sorry for the delay in replying) Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:09, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If a memorial is located outside the US then it does not belong into a US category. Categorisation has to be correct. Schwede66 15:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Schwede66 is right. The best solution might be a Category:Monuments and memorials to John F. Kennedy in the United States subcat it is a bit excessive, perhaps, but there are so many memorials to him, and there are probably quite a few more which still don't have articles yet - it my well be justifiable in this case. Grutness...wha? 00:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What the hell, let's just go for it and set up that sub-cat. Seriously, I was just having a hard time wrapping my head around it....(LOL) Anomalous+0 (talk) 23:58, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Done :) Grutness...wha? 10:19, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nazi Germany by year[edit]

Information icon Before adding a category to an article, as you did to Category:Nazi Germany by year, please make sure that the category page actually exists. In some cases, it may be appropriate to create a new category in accordance with Wikipedia's categorization guidelines, but it is usually better to use the most specific available existing category. It is never appropriate to leave a page categorised in a non-existent category, i.e. one whose link displays in red. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BrownHairedGirl: Whoops. I had every intention of creating the category, but encountered a number of computer-related problems & got completely sidetracked -- and never did create it. (Didn't see your note 'til just now - sorry.) Anomalous+0 (talk) 02:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, A+O.
In any case I am unclear why we would want a Category:History of Nazi Germany. That Nazi era in Germany ended 74 years ago, so AFAICS the whole of Category:Nazi Germany would belong in a Category:History of Nazi Germany, and that would be a pointless circle. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:36, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Symmetry and asymmetry[edit]

In this edit, you said the reason for the move is to achieve symmetry with Group action (sociology). But a result of your page move was that Group action became a redirect page whose target was Group action (mathematics). That is a lack of symmetry. Only if Group action were a disambiguation page with links to both Group action (mathematics) and Group action (sociology) would there be symmetry. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for kindly pointing that out. You're quite right about the "lack of symmetry" (LOL). I've gone ahead and remedied the oversight. Anomalous+0 (talk) 00:19, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sexuality books[edit]

After closure of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_26#Category:Sexuality_books as no consensus, please provide new thoughts on how to proceed. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:00, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll come back to this in the near future. Anomalous+0 (talk) 23:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kidnapped African children[edit]

"To ignore that is to compound the crime": that is exactly how I feel about it. Thanks for your help. I hope that editor doesn't just dismiss this as some match that they lost, but rather that they think on it a little bit. Drmies (talk) 21:43, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Had to do it[edit]

I really like the song We Will All Go Together When We Go and think there should be an article about the song. However, I can't see needing more than a very small quote from it. I had to delete the lyrics; it was too much of the song and really should not have been entered into the encyclopedia. Jacqke (talk) 02:09, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up, Jacqke. Yup, it definitely needs an overhaul. I'll see what I can do. Best, Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Math[edit]

Calling our most basic policy of providing references "pure b.s. is not helpful. Please provide a more convincing defense of the article. Like, ... supplying references, maybe? Staszek Lem (talk) 01:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Invite to RfC (Request for Comment) at Reagan article on Iran-Contra[edit]

Hi,

You're invited to an RfC on the question of, "Within the section on the Iran-Contra affair, should we include the aspect of drug trafficking on the part of some Nicaraguan Contras?"

Talk:Ronald_Reagan#rfc_85A761C

Thanks,

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Transvestite Transgender[edit]

I am a transvestite. I wear women's clothing. I am not transgender. I'm not changing anything. CallMeHonesty (talk) 07:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Um, okay... that's nice. But please help me out -- I'm not entirely sure why you left this note. Were you thinking I might be in need of a tutorial? Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Ivan Golunov[edit]

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Hi, it's been 3 weeks since I posted my concerns. Do you want to respond at the template, or should we close this nomination as unsuccessful? Yoninah (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We still have problems with the references, among other things. If you do not post to your nomination soon, it may well be closed around the end of this month. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:36, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 23:06, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ivan Golunov[edit]

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Origin of the placename Flint[edit]

I have added a note to Talk:Flint, Flintshire. Work is in progress! -- Picapica (talk) 06:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WHY[edit]

Hi:

Why this change (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Weather&diff=928469530&oldid=908945436)? Weather is a series of phenomena studied by Meteorology, not the other way around. I had to reverse your illogical edition.

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Flint, Flintshire[edit]

Hello,

Earlier this year you commented on the origin of the name Flint (Flintshire). I'm a new editor I've put some detailed information on the matter in the talk page, (I'm a little frustrated by someone who appears to me to be acting a little unreasonably) i believe the sources I've referenced are indeed secondary/tertiary sources discussing the subject matter directly ( even the reference to the Calendar of the Chancelory Roll I'm calling on the commentary of the compiler as published in 1914) and there's 5 of them! In any case my intention is not to publish those points but discredit the original source and thus remove it from the page. Even if it is prevalent it surely can't be right it's included unchallenged if it can be obviously disproven? Surely wikipedia isn't a place for known misinformation? I feel I don't have the resources or experience to compete for this, so perhaps I may ask for you to share your opinion on the matter especially as you have questioned it's inclusion so recently?

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Rename categories[edit]

Please see my proposal to speedily rename subcategories of Category:Enforced disappearances by country e.g. Category:Forced disappearances in Argentina to Category:Enforced disappearances in Argentina to align with the parent category per C2C. Hugo999 (talk) 04:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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"American legal scholars" vs "American women legal scholars"[edit]

I noticed that the category Category:American women legal scholars has been created, and many women (such as Lina Khan) moved into it, and out of Category:American legal scholars. However, no equivalent Category:American male legal scholars has been created. This is an issue of markedness, and one that has come up on Wikipedia before - see WP:WAW#Male is not the default. This caused quite the brouhaha in 2013. Either we should have 2+ categories for legal scholars, divided by gender, or we should have one category, undivided. Separating out women is unhelpful. Anomalous+0, I'm pinging you as the category creator, and Smasongarrison, since you took the action I noticed - what are your thoughts? —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:42, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See also WP:CATGENDER, which says only that a gender-specific category "could be implemented where gender has a specific relation to the topic", but does not mandate it (emphasis mine). Gender does not have a specific relation to the topic of legal scholars (as opposed to athletic competition, the example given at WP:CATGENDER). It also says that "In almost all cases, a GREDS-based category should be non-diffusing. This means that membership of an article in the category will not require its removal from a parent category unrelated to GREDS." To me, this seems like a pretty clear-cut case. All the members of Category:American women legal scholars should be placed back in Category:American legal scholars, if it is kept at all. —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:48, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Works about African-Americans[edit]

Hello, could you explain why Category:Black people in art is not apt as a parent cat? Is the description of "Works about [group]" not essentially synonymous with "[group] in art", hence all of the pages for one category being necessary to include in the other? Orchastrattor (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief.<sigh> Okay, as you are fully aware - since you put them there yourself - Category:Black people in art is already serving as the parent cat for 2 of the SUB-cats of Category:Works about African-Americans that deal with works of art. Hence making it a parent of that Category would be entirely redundant.
Furthermore - and more importantly - the other contents of Category:Works about African-Americans are NOT "works of art" at all - rather, they are simply other kinds of works about African-Americans. The larger point being that categories for works of art are always treated as sub-cats of larger categories for "Works" in general - NEVER the other way around.
I sure hope that helps. And I strongly urge you to take the time to familiarize yourself with the basic tenets of proper categorization before you engage in further avoidable blunders. Anomalous+0 (talk) 21:04, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a specific policy or consensus in mind as precedent here? The only sticking points here seem to be the documentary works which could easily be defined as a type of art and it would be very labyrinthine and unintuitive to have this split between "art" and "works" running down several layers of sub-groups, the tone of your response is entirely uncalled for. Orchastrattor (talk) 13:05, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good grief all over again. <sigh> I've already laid it all out for you as clearly as possible. Unfortunately, you've chosen to ignore what I told you - rather than, for instance, exploring the relevant Category trees, which is always a very salutary thing to do - and might have helped you to understand & accept the validity of my explanation. I'm afraid I just can't waste any more time & effort on this, so if you are unable to digest what I've already explained, please take any further questions about this issue to Wikipedia_talk:Categorization. I'm sure the good folks who field questions there will give you an explanation that is entirely in accord with what I've already told you. Anomalous+0 (talk) 22:32, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Category:African-Americans in art, Category:Works about black people etc. are all non-existent and you have not provided any precedent for such a distinction to be necessary, it remains a perfectly reasonable assumption for an "art" category to automatically include any sorts of "works", especially after I identified the possible grey areas you could use against my position only for you to refuse to elaborate on them. You can't contest someone else's contributions and then get exasperated with them when they AGF and ask you to defend your position.Orchastrattor (talk) 00:40, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In fact Black people in art already includes numerous documentary works under Category:Cultural depictions of Black people, do you oppose their inclusion as well or not? Orchastrattor (talk) 00:59, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS - I couldn't help but notice that you apparently didn't know how to link to the categories in question without having this talk page becoming listed in those categories, rather than showing up in the text you posted. (At least you avoided that, at any rate.) All it takes is a simple, properly placed colon ":" and, voila. Anomalous+0 (talk) 21:12, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British scholars has been nominated for merging[edit]

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I've stumbled onto User:SDZeroBot/Category cycles/17 today, and fixed one of the category cycles there. At the time, I haven't realized that I did it before, because I wasn't aware about the reverts (one, two).

My reasoning in 2024 ("animals" are a subject of study in Zoology) hasn't changed since 2020 (end goal: having categorization be "science" contains its "subject"). This is consistent with other similar science–subject pairs of categories:

The science category should encompass the subject category. For example, Category:Linguistics is about languages (which are the main subject of study of linguistics), linguists, and methodology of linguistics. But Category:Languages is only about linguistics in the sense that the word linguistics is part of the English language.

This approach helps keeping topic categories clear, and helps to avoid unnecessary category cycles. Does it make sense? —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Flint (rock) has been nominated for renaming[edit]

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Category sorting[edit]

Hi, can I ask why you've made various changes to categories such as https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Women_scientists&diff=prev&oldid=1214487624 ? How does putting it under a semi-colon improve things compared to be being under "W"? Thanks. -Kj cheetham (talk) 20:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]