User talk:Black Kite
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Does this violate a policy/guideline or am I over reacting?[edit]
Hello, I ran across the user page of Yfyyejgjwguj a few days ago and noticed a few things that seemed like they may not be allowed on a users page but didn't want to rush to one of the noticeboards without confirmation.
The user page is mainly a link repository, and further down is mostly gore and porn links. While I could care less what people look at on their own it doesn't seem like it should be linked on a user page. Is this a WP:UPNOT issue, or are user pages for whatever a user wishes to keep on them and granted more freedom?
I appreciate any help or advice you could give, and thank you in advance.
Awshort (talk) 08:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Awshort Yeah, that's not acceptable (and some of the stuff is frankly blockable). I've deleted every remotely dubious link on the userpage, revision deleted everything, and warned the user. Black Kite (talk) 09:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is the user in question not a sock of the currently indefinitely blocked User:Vwqvj qwhiu? Their user pages seem to be identical, and describes pages created by User:Vwqvj qwhiu as creater by User:Yfyyejgjwguj. 131.111.5.158 (talk) 18:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
2014 Isla Vista Killings[edit]
Can I ask what is wrong with the edits I did? A lot of the sources were unreliable, a lot of information was missing and outdated, and it just needed to be updated. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 23:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't understand how Rodger can't be notable. He is the one who shot the incel community into the mainstream and has made people inspired to do attacks like his almost ten years later. [1] [2] [3] [4] There are multiple articles talking about his mental health [5] [6] [7] [8] and Rodger's rampage also inspired and made women talk about sexism and misogyny and stared the hashtag #YesAllWomen. [9] [10] [11] [12]. He also caused the hashtag #NotAllMen, where men said they didn't have the same viewpoints like Rodger and wouldn't murder women because of it. [13] [14] [15] [16]. They also looked into his online life and how he was racist, hated women and talked bad about them, and was already looking to murder these poor college students [17] [18][19]. His rampage also brought forward more calls for gun control and inspired multiple laws that are now enacted [20] [21][22] [23]. Also talked about how mental health sources needed to be updated as well [24] [25] [26]. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 23:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to review the previous discussions at the various talk pages, and also WP:BIO1E. Black Kite (talk) 10:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand about needing a discussion for making an article on Elliot Rodger, but why do I need a discussion when updating the article by adding reliable sources and information that was missing on the 2014 Isla Vista killings article? A lot of the sources like IMBD on the article are unreliable and the article is messy. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 06:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Because there were previous discussions that suggested it didn't need a separate article (indeed, the redirect was protected at one point because people kept reinstating it). If you don't have a discussion about it, people are going to keep on redirecting it because that was the status quo. Notability isn't an issue here - it's merely where the information on Rodger should be. Black Kite (talk) 07:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand that. I started a discussion and will see where it heads. I was just asking about the 2014 Isla Vista killings. I wanted to update the information and remove unreliable sources, but you said that also needed a discussion. I was just wondering why I needed to talk with editors about updating the article.Shoot for the Stars (talk) 07:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Because there were previous discussions that suggested it didn't need a separate article (indeed, the redirect was protected at one point because people kept reinstating it). If you don't have a discussion about it, people are going to keep on redirecting it because that was the status quo. Notability isn't an issue here - it's merely where the information on Rodger should be. Black Kite (talk) 07:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand about needing a discussion for making an article on Elliot Rodger, but why do I need a discussion when updating the article by adding reliable sources and information that was missing on the 2014 Isla Vista killings article? A lot of the sources like IMBD on the article are unreliable and the article is messy. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 06:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)