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Remarkably poor reverts by you here! I hope these aren't typical. Where do you think Marie-Caroline de Bourbon-Sicile, duchesse de Berry goes to? Also a breach of WP:ENVAR. Don't edit-war over this. Johnbod (talk) 16:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: I obviously know where the link goes and I also verified what the reference stated. Info in articles should match references per WP:V. The original info in the article, reflected the source and also gives context to why this is important. Her substantive title in France is much more relevant than her maiden name in Italy to a French company. Also WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS applies, there is no reason to change the display name from the long term form used in the article since at least 2015. Also note that the IP changing the info has a history of going this sort of thing, making mistakes, and usually to the detriment of the articles changed. A detriment to this article as well. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- On the contrary, we should normally use the en:wp article title in links, not the form used in a foreign language source. Johnbod (talk) 17:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- My objection was to the display name in the piped link which was not an accurate English translation to anything in the source. Removing the display name from the link and leaving just the link name is fine as it is a fairly close English translation of the original French. The target article was moved 6 years ago and the link wasn't updated then as the redirect continued to work. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- The source (let's face it, a crappy PR effort) identifies the person, on whom we have a long article. There's no need to worry about the source after that. She was of course a princess, and plenty of better RS call her so. There's plenty of other iffy translation in the article, btw. Johnbod (talk) 03:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The title of the linked article itself doesn't use the honorific, it is not part of the WP:COMMONNAME. The source gives the history of the company and it is a good reference for that purpose. No reason to add unnecessary honorifics, it has never been in the company's article and is pointless fluff. The link name sufficiently identifies the person. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The source (let's face it, a crappy PR effort) identifies the person, on whom we have a long article. There's no need to worry about the source after that. She was of course a princess, and plenty of better RS call her so. There's plenty of other iffy translation in the article, btw. Johnbod (talk) 03:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- My objection was to the display name in the piped link which was not an accurate English translation to anything in the source. Removing the display name from the link and leaving just the link name is fine as it is a fairly close English translation of the original French. The target article was moved 6 years ago and the link wasn't updated then as the redirect continued to work. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- On the contrary, we should normally use the en:wp article title in links, not the form used in a foreign language source. Johnbod (talk) 17:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)