User talk:JBW

This account was previously known as JamesBWatson, but was renamed to JBW on 19 September 2019. Neither James nor Watson is my real name. Please post new sections at the bottom of the page. If you don't, there is a risk that your message may never be noticed, if other edits follow it before I get here.

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Block evasion?[edit]

Hi there. You recently blocked an editor for this spam at WT:List of paid editing companies. Another account is now there adding essentially the same material. Thought you would want to know. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri: Thanks I've blocked the account. JBW (talk) 22:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

83.137.6.237[edit]

Whoever is using this IP today has been daring admins to block them again. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted file[edit]

I see you deleted File:Paul huff pkwy.png as a copyright violation. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any discussion about this being a possible violation. What was it that made you think so? Bneu2013 (talk) 23:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bneu2013: I didn't "think" so, I knew so. Fortunately 0x 2x tagged it as a copyright infringement, with a link to a photograph on Google maps, and when I checked I found that the photograph you uploaded is identical to the photograph at Google maps, in every detail, right down to the same car in the process of driving out of an entrance, in exactly the same spot. Why do you ask how I knew? You must have known that you had copied the photograph. Why did you claim, when you uploaded the photograph, that it was your own work? You must have known that it wasn't. JBW (talk) 08:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

just to add, on the left side of the deleted image, there was a visible (though easy to miss, it was transparent grey) Google copyright text 0x 2x (talk) 08:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, 0x 2x. I knew that would be there somewhere, but I couldn't easily see it, and since the copyright infringement was blindingly obvious anyway, I didn't bother to search for it. Now you've told me where to look, though, I can see it. JBW (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since it's been so long since I uploaded it, I don't remember why I claimed it was my own work. I may have copied it from Flickr and accidentally used the wrong tag. Whatever happened, I made a mistake. Why didn't this come up during the GA review? 0x 2x, why did I not get a notification on my talk page when you tagged it so I could have possibly fixed the issue? Bneu2013 (talk) 18:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bneu2013: I accept that it was a long time ago that you uploaded the image, so that you probably don't remember the circumstances, such as why you gave it as your own work. I also think, from what I have seen of your other editing, that it was a mistake, rather than dishonesty.

I took no part in the good article review, so I can't tell you why it didn't come up, but my guess is that nobody had any reason to suspect anything, and so nobody had any reason to check. I am not sure how you "could have possibly fixed the issue": if an image is not released under a free license then nothing you can do on Wikipedia can change that. The only way to change it is, in fact, to persuade Google to change its copyright terms, which I think is unlikely, to say the least. JBW (talk) 18:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

forgive me, but I do have a bit of a hard time believing it was a mistake as you claim, especially with other examples from this same time period being verifiably from Google Maps, tagged similarly with "Own work" (image for example, https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1800171,-84.8740418,2a,76.5y,27.57h,86.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfKZKoF8pxTebLL0C3tCjkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) though I'm not sure how to display other examples from Commons here. nearly all images (save for the logo and bridge) uploaded by you on the article Cleveland/Bradley County Greenway are verifiably taken from Google Maps, with what looks like a sharpness and saturation filter (could be JPEG compression?) applied to the images. 0x 2x (talk) 20:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, 0x 2x. The one you linked to was clearly no more the uploader's "own work" than the previous one, so I have deleted it. Obviously that must reduce one's confidence that the other one was a mistake. As you say, it has had some kind of filtering applied to it, including increase of saturation. I had looked fairly quickly through Bneu2013's file upload history, and missed that one, so I may have missed many more. I'll have another look.

The most remarkable thing I've seen connected to this is the following statement, made when a file on Commons was challenged as a copyright infringement: "I don't see the issue here. This is a photo I retrieved at a public library. How am I supposed to prove anything about it's publication? I know nothing about it's history, or whether it was ever published at all for that matter." That was a few years ago, and may not reflect Bneu2013's current view, but it certainly raises the possibility of copyright infringements because of disregard for copyright, rather than innocent error. JBW (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember, but I think those images came from Flickr. If someone screenshotted them from Google Maps and then uploaded them to Flickr, then I guess I can't verify their copyright status. If I can't confirm this, I'll request their deletion. Also, I must ask, 0x 2x what brings a user with only five edits to this issue? Bneu2013 (talk) 22:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's relevant, but I'm just a lurking user with extensive knowledge on Google Maps (more specifically, Street View) and also knowledge of the fact that Google's handle on copyright is quite incompatible with Wikipedia's, that stumbled across this page with an image that very obviously came from a Google Street View panorama taken with a Generation 3 (R7) Google 360 camera.

anyways, since I now know how to embed Commons links, here are the panoramas from where the rest of the images that I know of came from, for more verification of their status.

commons::File:CBC Greenway near 17th Street.png : https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1710486,-84.8792896,2a,75y,18.26h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5f_TU4Bv2cf_0buKF-SeYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

commons::File:CBC Greenway Tinsley.png : https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2017423,-84.8574356,2a,90y,136.1h,87.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUEtXP1-s_nzbUA5gj-2bHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

commons::File:Greenway Park Cleveland, TN.png : https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1906264,-84.866271,2a,75.9y,348.7h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA5pJcawoJhIk6F9DVD-Gtg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 0x 2x (talk) 00:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I requested speedy deletion of those, but according to another user, they are too old for that. Bneu2013 (talk) 00:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@0x 2x: You can link to a file on Commons by typing [[commons::File:CBC Greenway near 17th Street.png]] in the wiki markup, which produces this link on the page: commons::File:CBC Greenway near 17th Street.png. JBW (talk) 22:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent activity on my User talk[edit]

Given an off-wiki approach I have also had, I believe Alimahmuttr, Charlessmith9 and Editorahmad belong in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of علي أبو عمر. This is Ali Al Suleiman, https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-al-suleiman/. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please tag this for speedy deletion[edit]

Hi there, can you please tag this Collen Mashawana page for speedy deletion I don't think it's notable. I also think it's not written from a neutral standpoint.Bobbyshabangu _talk 16:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bobbyshabangu: I don't understand. If you think the article should be tagged for speedy deletion then why do you ask me to do it, instead of doing it yourself? JBW (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because in the past you've tagged my articles for speedy deletion, so who else to better delete the article except you?. Also, because I think the person who initially wrote this article was paid to do so.Bobbyshabangu _talk 18:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Imlil[edit]

A page that you have locked.

Location Consider updating the location to something more reasonable. At the moment the link suggests the town is a square metre in size 90.240.165.192 (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You must mean Imlil, Marrakesh-Safi. If so, can you clarify what you want changed, and preferably what you want it changed to? I can't see anything in the article about the size of the place, and I don't know which link you are referring to. JBW (talk) 09:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]