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Tyla (album)

Hello Baffle gab1978, thank you for taking this review. Just thought I should let you know that this article is currently going through a Peer review, please check it out if you haven't. dxneo (talk) 00:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I will have a look at the PR page before I begin editing there. By the way, can you please fix your talk page design so the pattern at the top doesn't obscure the page text and the MediaWiki interface? Making a talk page difficult to read or edit can be considered disruptive; please see here. Thank you. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I will remove the code. dxneo (talk) 00:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

It's currently 3:35am in South Africa so I wanna sleep, but so far I think you're doing an amazing job. Oh Baffle gab1978, the wording the song and the album are very discouraged and must be replaced with either Tyla or It, I honestly don't know why I haven't fixed that. Just thought I should let you know instead of doing it myself, to avoid edit conflicts. dxneo (talk) 01:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for removing the code, it is appreciated. :) Regarding "the album" and "the song", I understand these terms can be repetitive but pronouns like "it" can be ambiguous and unclear so I try to avoid them wherever possible. We need to be as clear and concise as possible but I don't think we need to slavishly obey GA / PR reviewers. Sleep well; I'm signing off now too. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:39, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

I think to pass PR we have address the issues per reviewers request. Am I wrong? dxneo (talk) 12:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

If the reviewer points out obvious problems, like confusing words or over-long sentences, those problems do need to be fixed. But as long as the article complies with the GA criteria, the reviewer ought to accept what they're given and not dictate a preferred writing style. The FA criteria are far stricter, as you'll find if you nominate any articles there. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

It's crazy how I was advised to change some of the things you are now reading, stuff like "depicts Tyla and…" I was told to go with "containing" instead and to oftenly put punctuation before sources just when separating charts. When I was going through the FA reviews, most of them were advised to keep it "concise and precise." 1989 was given as an example to take reference from. I guess we will just have to wait for the PR reviewer's comment. And what I also fail to understand is, what comes first between quotation marks (inverted commas) and a period? When I was improving "Jump", someone told me about the Oxford comma as you see on the title of the page. I'm so confused right now. dxneo (talk) 03:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, every article is different and there's no "one size fits all" here; we very often can't use one article as a template for another, but we can use said article to give us ideas for other articles. Tyla is a very recent album and there might be further material to be added, such as reviews, awards, nominations, inclusion in end-of-year lists, etc. Yes, the Oxford comma often trips me up; I don't use it as a habit so I need to remember to use it when copy-editing some articles! If you're unsure of anything, the Manual of Style is a useful guide; Wikipedia uses the logical punctuation style so periods go outside the closing quotation marks unless you're quoting multiple sentences. You can always ask questions at the GOCE main talk page. Thanks for fixing the issues I noted below. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 04:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

(←) I've now finished my c/e and I found a couple of problems. In "Singles", I failed verification on two pieces of text. In the first paragraph we have: "Two remix versions of "Water", one featuring the American rapper Travis Scott and the other featuring the DJ Marshmello, were released on 17 November 2023." I checked the source when I rewrote the sentence; the source discusses the Scott remix but it doesn't mention a DJ Marshmello so I've marked that text with [failed verification]. If you can't find a source, remove that part of the sentence.

I've done the same in a fourth-para sentence: "It debuted at number 18 on the New Zealand Hot Singles chart". Here, the source is a chart website that is regularly updated so it no-longer lists "Art"; also, the provided archive link goes to a version of that page from December 2021, long before that song was even written. The best thing to do here would be to mark the citation with "url-status=deviated" and find the correct version of the page in the Internet Archive.

I also think the lede is a little short and could be expanded to better summarise the article. Perhaps add some text about the promotional tour, live gigs and other efforts. That's just a suggestion though. I hope the c/e is useful, good luck with your planned GA nom. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

The article is already GA, I'm going for FA now. I have already addressed the failed verification issues. And thank you for everything I appreciate it. I will try to expand the lede. dxneo (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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